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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:12 AM Original message |
If Congress does approve a bail out for the car companies |
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. It guarantees executive bonuses. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Wrong |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Without Accountability that most DUers have been screaming about |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. GM and the UAW are a living entity, and cannot survive without each other. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. Where was the UAW when the jobs of workers in other fields, |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. I have gotta agree with you, at least somewhat ... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It might save the executives' jobs |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Actually, the car companies have agreed... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Thank you, it was so obvious but we read, unlike others here. |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. I am amazed at the number... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Yup, years of experience, made their bones picking up nuts and bolts |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
48. The car companies are asking for bridge loans, but unless Americans |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I think your point is well-reasoned and I certainly respect it. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 04:10 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Lost a job commensurate with my ability, experience and training four years ago, and have |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I sense a great deal of bitterness on your part towards the auto industry. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. The auto industry and the UAW have been too silent while |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You know... |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Jealous much? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Please read my response to I sense a great deal of bitterness. |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Payback with what? |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. OK. Let's play. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. He doesn't like the game |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Yes, I think the same on them too |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. In a perfect world I would agree with you. |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
4. It'll let them..... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. No, it isn't. Overall we have less than 4 months supply, and that is good |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Are the number's you're quoting |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You are good at farming (hopefully), stick to that. |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. I'm a just a dumb farmer |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Farmers have to be good businessmen. UAW workers don't. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. "Farmers have to be good businessmen. UAW workers don't." |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. He just said that he believes that the oil thing is a myth |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Yeah Right |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Now, you support the oil companies and the myth |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. I don't believe gas will remain at 2.00 indefinitely. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I agree, but it will go down to near historic levels |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Regardless, the push should be to increase CAFE standards and rebuild national infrastructure. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
45. There was some discussion on CNBC earlier today |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. Worst case scenario: The management takes the money and still remains un-innovative/uncreative |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. (sigh) |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. "IF you are not a student of WWII and can't figure it out" |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yup, but I wasn't alive (quite) back them to be held responsible for their actions |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So you still support General Motors Management for the last 8 years? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. We're done for tonight (today, this morning, whatever) |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I think you just went about it the wrong way with that post. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. See post 20 |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Well???????? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. It has no bearing on my idea of turning over ownership of the company to the workers. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. If the UAW wanted to own GM (or Ford or Chrysler) |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. See, this is what I absolutely oppose, the idea that I'm mocking you or anyone. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Don't give that shit about 'I don't care" about unions |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. IDK |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Amtrak actually does pretty well up in the Northeast corridor, given the ridership numbers. |
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Farmall (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. That's pretty lame |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Eh, yes and no. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
13. In any event. money has to come with accountability strings attached n/t |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Absolutely |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
46. Hefty middle class tax breaks will help the car industry more than |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. According to other posts upstream, this is just a bridge loan |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
51. Some companies do survive Chapter 11 |
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