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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:49 PM Original message |
My Jewish Friend Supported Proposition 8 and John McCain |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. obama received the support of an exceptionally large percent of jewish americans |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. 77% voted for Obama |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Obama also did extremely well amongst Catholics and that doesn't stop the Catholic smears on DU..... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Jewish Sunday school teacher here. The Orthos are our "fundies" |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. As a recovering Catholic, I fully understand. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. hell, they don't count left-leaning Protestants, either! |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. I wish more of the non-Catholic general public understood this.... |
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ACTION BASTARD (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
45. "As a recovering Catholic..." I like that. I shall steal that when I begin |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. I usually just tell people |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Villager, what do you mean by "Prism..." |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I should probably rewrite that... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Joe Lieberman is an Ortho |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. I find it curious |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Pretty standard procedure for Jewish children - I attended classes |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
73. You're not supposed to work on the sabbath. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
81. Reform Judaism was created partly to make Judaism more compatible with American culture |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. "Jews Are Leaving the USA" |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. All the Jews that believe as he does are invited to leave... |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
74. I can hardly wait to see them gone. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. "Jews cannot continue to act as the world’s policemen" |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. That was rich, wasnt it. |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. Just a reminder we Jews, like every other group, are VERY diverse in our politics. |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I Love You Guys On DU -- Thank you n/t! |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Stein also gave a speech in favor of Pétain |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Jews are overwhelmingly liberal. They voted for Obama |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Can non-jews repond? |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Absolutely Please Non-Jew Respond Too--Thank You n/t |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. Here is a link from Judaism 101 that may help |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Thank you, you seem to know this stuff inside-out n/t |
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Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. Your friend is deluded |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. My life story is the opposite of your friend - I was born in Israel |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Small correction. |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. oops I meant all of Jerusalem.. thanks! |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. No prob! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. Fundies come in all flavors... even Jewish... |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
22. Religious Fundamentalism = VERY BAD... |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
23. Any Comments on Rahm Emanuel? I'm curious... n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. huh? what does Emanuel have to do with your OP? |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. yes Rahm is mentioned (see above) |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. oh, sorry. I haven't a clue. |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yes--Thank Goodness For The Lack of Cohesion! n/t |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. It's in the opening paragraph, I made it bold to stand out n/t |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. does he like Joe Lieberman? |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
27. It doesn't seem like the religious affiliation matters - it's the fearful, self-righteousness |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. I also know some very liberal Orthodox |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. Being Jewish I feel I can say that Jewish Fundies are no better than Christian or Islamic fundies. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
79. Being of no religion that's |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
33. First of all... |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. "How do they view the state of Israel, which is deeply involved in "politics"?" |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. No, I don't know about it in too much detail... |
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123infinity (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
36. I've had many Jewish friends but none of them were the 'salad bar' variety. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. What does "salad bar variety" mean....need a translation. n/t |
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123infinity (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. Just now saw your question! It's a term usually applied to fundy 'christians' |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
39. "this point sounds like gibberish" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
40. As a Jewish DU-er, my qualified advice is |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. If there is a just God, he will have a gay son |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
44. "Gays are Not a Persecuted Minority" |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. And it sounds like the friend never heard of |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. Or Harvey Milk. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Yes! |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. Sure Sounds Like A Likudnik To Me... |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. That's Right On... |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I Call It A Holocoust Complex... |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
50. I will hold the door for him AND anyone else that wants to leave |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. What's your real point here? As one of the overwhelming Jewish Liberals who voted |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. No I Promise, Not Flamebait... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Your friend is "the backwash"! |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. As one oof the overwhelming Catholics who voted |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
54. So basically he's an orthodox Jew who thinks a lot like a fundamentalist Protestant |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
61. sorry for not reading every word of your post - |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. why are you friends with someone like this |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Good question, answer is we both like motorcycle rides into the mountains... n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
63. Let me guess - his name was BenDavid. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
65. That's very, very sad |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
66. Reform Jew here - your friend sounds absolutely no different from |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
69. Jews are not a monolithic group. |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
70. Orthodox Jews can be just as insane as their Right Wing Christian counterparts. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
72. It's wrong to think homophobia comes from any holy book. It comes from within |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
75. I would have stopped listening long before you did. |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. That is a great observation thank you... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. You might also point out that the Anti-Defamation League... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
78. Unfortunately, there are RW nuts in every faith and culture. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
82. Just so everybody knows, Orthodox Jews engage in a number of paternalistic practices |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
84. Yer friend is a fundy... and like all fundies |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
85. Fuck him and his fairy tales for raggedy ass herdsmen |
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