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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:18 AM Original message |
Despair as California's Central Valley dries up |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. The dustbowl arrives, right on time? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. Um, sorry, dude--the state not handing you irrigation water for cheap |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
3. Throw money at it, then print more. That should fix it. nt |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'd love to give them some of our rain. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I'd love to have some of your rain too. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. This is what happens when you continue to live and farm in a semi-arid area |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Joan Didion writes about water wars around Sacrament that go |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. They knew, but at least there was some natural restriction on the numbers that were able to settle |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Gotcha. n/t |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. ...or build de-salination plants...there is an abundant supply of the salty variety of water... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. The Central Valley is not a desert in the normal sense. |
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doodadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Absolutely, Xithras! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Tulare Lake was one of the greatest environmental crimes in US history...and it's forgotten today. |
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Baikonour (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Hard to keep people out of a beautiful state with perfect weather year round. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. It really wasn't that hard until the advent of diverted water hit the state |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
6. When three quarters of the globe is water it is ridiculous |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Because they are quite expensive, energy intensive, and pollute both the air and water |
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coffeenap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. If we, as humans, made it a priority, we could bring down the costs |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Sure, we can bring down the monetary costs, |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Of course, we COULD use tidal power to run the plants in a non-polluting, |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Never can be totally non-polluting |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. If returning the salt to the ocean is problematical I'm sure they could sequester |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. There are closed system solutions that are even better than that. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Now that is cool. Is there an operational pilot of that kind of closed |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No. Thye've been proposed, but nobody has built one yet. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Desalinization for non-coastal areas isn't really an option. |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. You do know what they are doing in Saudi Arabia and throughout the Sahara? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. That is absolutely true, but the significance is that if we had coastal |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. Fuck him. He's been getting rich off taxpayer subsidized water for 50 years |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. Considering that most of the central valley is Republican, no doubt they |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
10. Gee. Farming a desert doesn't work. Who knew? nt |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's starting to look like my part of MN is permanently drier, too. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. thanks for the report - for the last couple of yrs. have seen different |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. You know how the Indians felt, when their land was taken away to |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. People, people!! There is nothing to worry about till the greens of 5 star golf course' turn brown |
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doodadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. We are in the lower Sierra Nevada's |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. I'm telling ya.. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Nobody's that desperate. |
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Neurotica (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. Similar tale in Australia - farms drying up in this month's Nat'l Geographic |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. shaking my head... |
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