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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:47 PM Original message |
Random Question: Do any other Dems agree that the Death Tax is unfair? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. if DC dems had any brains they would call tax cut extensions the BIRTH tax but they dont lol nt |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. That's a beautiful reframe. |
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DenverDad (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. In my opinion |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I suppose I could make the same argument about my wages. |
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DenverDad (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Good points! |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Um, the estate tax only covers millionaire estates. After this deal, it won't affect anyone below 5 |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. The first 5 million will be exempt, then 35% tax after that. n/t |
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SoCalNative (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. I thought according to the deal made yesterday |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Income is income. Why should income derived from inheritance be exempt? |
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northoftheborder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. because it is unearned by the person who inherits it |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. So is pretty much all dividend and capital gains income |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. and is usually not taxed when it was earned by the deceased |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Exactly. It should be taxed at DOUBLE the rate then. |
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Lord Magus (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. All the more reason to tax it heavily. |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's an estate tax, and it's more the Paris Hilton Tax |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't think it should apply to estates under $20 million. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. The tax isn't when you die, it's before you inherit. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. The money has already been through the tax mill once. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. All money goes through the tax mill several times before it goes to money heaven. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
51. People say it's on the dead person because |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. It's a whole hell of a lot less than 2%. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. Do any other Dems agree that the Death Tax is unfair? |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Dead people still have to file tax returns - well their heirs file. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. No, it's not unfair. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. We're used to it in the UK |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's an Estate Tax, so don't use Republican lingo |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. It doesn't do the trick. |
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moose65 (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. Why is it unfair, though? |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
19. I don't think it's unfair in principle |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
20. Nope. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. Absolutely not. |
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left is right (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
23. I have to pay taxes on the interest my pitiful savings account garners |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. "the heirs of a rich deadman did nothing to earn that money why shouldn't’t they have to pay a tax" |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. Absolutely not unfair |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
25. republican labeling here? |
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Pryderi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. Aren't farms exempt from the federal aristocracy tax? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Q: how big does an estate have to be before taxes represent 50%? |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. If your heirs end up paying a lot of estate tax, it probably means |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. or you died an untimely death |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. or you died an untimely death |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
33. The death tax is very fair. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. You need a fairly high exclusion, and then a really high confiscatory tax. nt |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. HELLO??!! There is no such thing as a "Death Tax"! Never has been! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
36. What's wrong with paying taxes twice on the same money? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. It is NOT a death tax for starters |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
38. No, it is not unfair |
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soryang (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. The permanent alienation of wealth from commerce,.. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Very well put. Cutting through the noise is essential to making good choices and |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
40. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DEATH TAX!!! |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
42. i don't. pay your taxes suckah! if the estate is 5-10 mill no one will end up crying, even after tax |
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Lord Magus (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yes, it's unfair. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. "Death Tax" is Fox "news"speak. nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
46. Quite unfair. Way too low. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Death Tax?? Don't you mean the "Estate Tax"? |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. I prefer to live in a meritocracy.. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
56. Absolutely! |
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