So, what now?

[Kablooie]

Obama has screwed himself and us up big time.
We can expect a strong Republican leaning government calling the shots for the next two years.
In 2012, with both Republicans and Democrats voting against him, I doubt Obama can win so we will get another Republican president.
Corporate America can freely throw buckets of money at Republican candidates all over the country so it's very possible we will get another fully Republican congress to go with the new president.

That would give us 6 more years minimum of Republican dominated policies.

After 8 Bush years the country was close to collapse so what will 6 more years of the same bring us?

I fear that the America of 2016 may be unrecognizable from the America we think we know.

Those that wanted to drown America in the bathtub may get their wish soon.

[quinnox]

1. Basically, hope for the most tolerable republican possible is all

we can do. I'm feeling as pessimistic as you are, at this rate I think President Obama is facing a catastrophic defeat in 2012. I'm hoping Mitt Romney is the GOP nominee, as he seems the best of a horrible bunch.

I don't think he would destroy the country like Bush did at any rate.

[sirthomas66]

21. I agree with you on this. I don't know anything about Romney except

I think he had a business that he did well in.

[npk]

25. You can forget that fantasy

As the next right winger GOP Prez will be even further right than Bush. Most likely a Rubio or Jindal or that shit bag Gov from Texas who I won't name.

[struggle4progress]

2. "Don't waste any time mourning: organize!" -- Joe Hill

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. +1000

[deutsey]

19. Yeah, I think the time is long overdue for us to turn off the TVs and computers

and start getting together and organizing. The Internet is a good tool for that, perhaps, but it can also be a way to keep us isolated from each other in virtual ghettoes with the illusion that we belong to "communities".

I don't think those in power today are as concerned about the virtual kind of organizing as they would be if we were doing what Joe Hill and the Wobblies did: organize real communities in the real world that demanded our real needs be met.

[struggle4progress]

22. +

[ProSense]

3. "Obama has screwed himself and us up big time. "

No he hasn't.

"In 2012, with both Republicans and Democrats voting against him, I doubt Obama can win so we will get another Republican president."

Are you serious? Where is the evidence that Democrats will be voting against the President?

[tavalon]

13. They'll vote the same way they did with the midterms

With their asses. The real activists, like you and I will drag ourselves out for him, but most won't.

[county worker]

4. We had both Houses of Congress and the White House yet

we are no better off then in 2008. If there ever is a history of these last two years it will say that the Democratic party no longer is the party of the people.

Don't tell me the HCR bill will create jobs or keep people in their houses!

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. We need to organize

and go into movement politics...

As to the dems some are still with us... but the power of propaganda has been strong.

Oh and power does not give an inch... they have to be forced to give it up.

[Poll_Blind]

6. Since my Congressmen (mostly) aren't asshats, I still have the luxory of just watching the...

...train wreck unfold, day by day. I don't have any historical or personal perspective with which to easily interpret, exactly, what the fuck Obama is playing at.

A few days ago, with the declaration that the Tax Deal was "off the table, take it or leave it" to Congressional Democrats- in my mind anyway- he is officially "playing at something".

What, I can only guess. At 29 or whatever, I saw goddamned jet planes take down skyscrapers and then watched a barely-literate president finish the job the terrorists started, especially after his re-election.

These last ten years have been weirder than a Dutch nightmare and I no longer presume to predict what frighteningly-abysmal turn it will take, or what motivates the players.

PB

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. That historical perspective does not come from experience

but books.

Start with Zinn's A History of the American People...

There is Power in the Union and a few others.

[sirthomas66]

9. Again, if the SS tax holiday is allowed to stand, it will end the Democrat

Party.

[Mnemosyne]

15. It's actually the Democratic Party. Welcome. n/t

[sirthomas66]

16. Sorry. Getting weary.........

[Mnemosyne]

24. I hear ya', longest ten years in the US, many are weary, myself included... n/t

[dionysus]

18. the what party?

[sirthomas66]

20. Sorry, I was in the middle of sending emails, making phone calls

and efaxes to hundreds of people. And getting, tired, which I said in the post right above yours.

[Safetykitten]

10. Well he has made himself somewhat irrelevent.

[Monique1]

11. It is a GOP

death panel call - I am beginning to see this every day.

[Edweird]

12. The best part is that the r's will be even FURTHER right, thanks to Obama moving so far right.

Yay.

[Matariki]

14. The fucked up thing is that the Republicans aren't in control

I mean, on paper. They have the House, but not the Senate or Presidency. And not in the majority of anything yet. But fuck all if anyone can tell.

[dionysus]

17. yes. he's single handedly behind every problem we've ever faced.

the broken senate has nothing to do with it...
:eyes:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

23. you got that right btw K&R