Info about Joe's acknowledgment

[elleng]

that 'war' vote was wrong, please.

We should have a resource place for facts, so we can inform those interested, and correct those who are mistaken about stuff.

[PatSeg]

1. Good point

Some of us are a bit rusty but I think we could get back in shape. I still have a lot of emails from the Biden Bloggers with counter talking points. Just have to clear my head. I'm still reeling.

[1corona4u]

2. Here is one source, but there are a few others I am still looking for

MR. RUSSERT: And yet it's important that we put things in historical context. Senator Biden, you were on the show in August of 2002 talking about Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction. You concluded your statement by saying, "I think Saddam either has to be separated from his weapons or taken out of power." A month later you voted for a resolution authorizing just that. In hindsight, knowing everything you know now about the absence of weapons of mass destruction, was your vote a mistake?

SEN. BIDEN: It was a mistake. It was a mistake to assume the president would use the authority we gave him properly. And I brought along that whole quote. I knew you'd ask me this. I said, "We know he continues to attempt to gain access to additional capability, including nuclear capability. There's a real debate on how far off that is, whether it's a matter of years or it's a matter of less than that. We don't know enough now." That was the rest of my quote. So I never argued that there was an imminent threat. We gave the president the authority to unite the world to isolate Saddam. And the fact of the matter is, we went too soon. We went without sufficient force. And we went without a plan.

MR. RUSSERT: If there was a vote today, you would vote no?

SEN. BIDEN: I--with this president, absolutely I would vote no, based on the way in which they've handled it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10154103/

[1corona4u]

3. Another..

"It was a mistake," Biden says. "I regret my vote. I regret not realizing how incompetent (the Bush administration) would be. The president did not level with us. And if I had known it, I would never have voted to give him that authority in the first place."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2828.html

[1corona4u]

5. Another..

Joe Biden on Voting Record
Regrets his war vote because Bush misused war authority
Q: In May 2003 you said, "There was sufficient evidence to go into Iraq." Then in 2004 you said, "I voted to give the president the authority to use force in Iraq. I still believe my vote was just." Then in Iowa in 2007, running for President, you said, "It was a mistake. I regret my vote."
A: That's unfair. I said it was a mistake between, and you make it sound like I went to Iowa and all of a sudden .

Q: Well, there was a change from being a just vote to a mistake.

A: Yeah, because I learned more. We were told at the time that all these Iraqi generals were ready to step up and take on Saddam. We had commitments at the time from the president that he would not move without the international community. There were a whole lot of things that changed.

Q: So what do you regret?

A: I regret having believed that this administration had any competence. If I'd known they were going to misuse the authority we gave them, I would have never ever given them the authority.

Source: Meet the Press: 2007 "Meet the Candidates" series Apr 29, 2007

Vote for war allowed war only after all else failed
Q: Should you have sought out people who had a dissenting view on WMD?
A: Oh, I did. I called every intelligence agency before the Foreign Relations Committee, had them all sit there at once. I pointed out to all my colleagues who came that there was vast disagreement among the intelligence community.

Q: But despite the doubts you heard, you voted for the war.

A: I voted to give the president the authority to avoid a war. We had a more constrictive amendment, but he had 55 votes no matter what.

A: It allowed the president to go to war. It did not authorize him to go to it. You make it sound like it said, "Mr. President, go to war." It said, "Mr President, don't go to war." It said "go to the United Nations. Try to get a deal. Get the inspectors back in. Tell us that that's what you're about to do. And, Mr. President, if all else fails, you have authority to use force." That's what it said.

http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Joe_Biden_War_+_Peace.htm

[gateley]

6. Corona! So good to see you!

And I'm laughing at all the info you provided! Brings back memories! :pals:

[1corona4u]

7. Just call me the librarian....

I guess I still have some work to do, judging by some of the post.....I will not let people crucify Joe.

[gateley]

8. There are so many FEWER anti-Biden posts -- and so many positive ones!

Can you BELIEVE this is the same place?

[Muttocracy]

9. It's a little disorienting! nt

[elleng]

10. Great work, corona!

If you have suggestions about how we can maintain/catalogue your and our findings, please let us know.

Thanks!

[1corona4u]

13. I usually keep this stuff in my Joe Biden folder in my favorites, then

if needed, I rename the links.

[Eurobabe]

12. Thanks a mill for that corona

I've already had some people ask me about his vote. Bush tricked us isn't cutting the mustard. :eyes:

[Muttocracy]

4. thanks corona nt

[whirlygigspin]

11. Corona!

:bounce:

happy happy joy joy!