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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:42 PM Original message |
Do you believe the Administration is on the take as Cenk Uygur claims? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. OMG. That is the most disgusting picture, you can't post that here, FFS. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #103 |
182. Picture? I was the first person responding to this thread and I didn't post a picture |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #182 |
184. Agreed. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #182 |
190. An excellent question |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #182 |
197. A DU member posts positive and well resourced commentary about our president... |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. No!.... fercrissake. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. But you don't understand |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:21 PM Original message |
They're idiots. They don't have one f***** proof |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. Here are the sources for the claims in the video. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Thanks! n/t |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
128. This is the Shit Tommy! |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
199. Is difficult for some to admit that they bought a pig in a poke. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
213. Here's the thing.... |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
205. It's difficult to tell who is from the Left and who is from the Right around here. |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
198. Too bad that civic duty doesn't include investigating the possible crimes of the Bush administration |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes. n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yes, what? There are |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. 1. Yes 2. I don't 3. Who would do the investigation? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Summary: |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. The perceived landscape to a candidate is different |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. You're right. I call for an investigation of the OP. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. as Obama himself has said, corruption has been legalized |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. How do you explain the disconnect between the October 2008 speech by... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. They don't explain; they complain |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yup, complain, ignore and confuse the issues... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. "the poster has been ignoring this issue for months." No, you've just been repeating this for months |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. First people denied there was a deal when Tauzin started speaking... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
155. Yep. Tauzin pretty much spilled it when it looked as if the amount might get changed at one point. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #155 |
178. What was promised to Karen Ignagni, thinking the individual mandate and |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #178 |
180. It's pretty obvious that was the agreement with her |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #180 |
215. I think you nailed it... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #178 |
195. Anyone that called foul |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #195 |
216. They sure were and still are :( n/t |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
100. delete |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
137. You refuse to answer with cridible facts and blame the shelf life of the question? Really? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Also, in case you |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. Saw it and responded, but you continue to ignore the promise... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. What disconnect? |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Oh, enough with the facts. Make up a "devastating" bullshit video |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
60. You need to back up your BS video claim with links that refute what is mentioned... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Under the deal cut with Pharma, Medicare will NOT be able to negotiate |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
156. "you said Cenk was confusing the issues of Medicare D and the Pharma deal." |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
101. Crickets again... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:00 AM Response to Reply #17 |
188. Not, not closing the donut hole. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. Do you belive Cenk Hates Obama? and has nothing better to do than bash the Admin? |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Shhhh. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Frankly, I believe Cenk is reverting to his Republican roots |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. But anyone hyping politcal personalities to promote themselves is alright as long as it is the one |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You equate hyping "politcal personalities" with accusing someone of being on the take |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. My point was that if cenk was lauding Obama or anyone else you support because it |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. No, your point is justifying accusing the administration of being on the take n/t |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. You don't say anything to disprove any of Cenk's assertions. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. "What about Bacchus? " |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Is Messina? Is Axelrod? is Rahm? Why don't you address Cenk's claims |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. When Cenk ignores the $500 billion in cuts to Pharma and insurance companies |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. And yet its ok for you to refuse to address anything he says! |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
158. I've asked before and I'll ask again. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
192. He ignores $500 billion in cuts to PhRMA & insurance companies cause they don't exist |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
202. Are you that blindly loyal that you can't at least acknowledge the facts of the matter? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
157. They keep saying that about Ariana, too but I've seen her bashing the pubs pretty good, lately |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. As a matter of fact, yes. He hates him. It's been going on |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Gee, folks said that about Rachel when she didn't agree and Olberman too! Helen Thomas |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. How many examples should I post that directly contradict your claim? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Bravo! Wonderful response. And true. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Hyping his show, but proves nothing |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Fuck hamsher and grover and fuck cenk |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. How mature. A real fact based debate.I guess you don't know anything about Axelrod or Messina either |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
113. Well with what they've got to work with |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. The Bottom Line On This Issue |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. And the "support' for this position that arrives is juvenile name calling and lacking in substance. |
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tledford (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
108. Bingo. eom |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
71. All that proves is that he doesn't ALWAYS walk in lockstep. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
159. They were right |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
107. Good response. And strangely enough, this divide on the left can be attributed |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
126. Barack the Inaction Man and the Children Who Love Him At All Costs |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
110. No. That would be silly. |
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Jester Messiah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. No. Got any more foolish queries? [nt] |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
20. No, I don't.................nt |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. No.. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. How many examples should I post that directly contradict your claim? |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. I was waiting for you... |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
105. if you were waiting |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. My No.. was sufficent... |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
132. maybe in your eyes |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. I like Cenk Uygur.... |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Ridiculous. Here is how that ends |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Actually it ends with no closing of the donut hole in the senate bill. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Keep repeating that distortion. n/t |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Actually that's the truth. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Actually, |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. LOL!!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Don't be obtuse. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Then why does pelosi have to fix the senate bill. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. +1 n/t |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
161. The bill does not close the donut hole |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
162. +1000 same old talking points from people who I don't think have read the bill |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
160. There is nothing in your snippet above that refutes in any way the story |
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vegiegals (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I do not think all knew. I hope the video gets around. |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
139. Source if your interested... |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. Yes , "Yes We Can" turned into "No We Can't" |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. Do you now admit that they indeed made a deal with PhRMA? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
171. :crickets: nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. Well I have a few problems with it. I don't see why Obama would support the Snowe plan... |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. No it wouldn't stick it PHRMA. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Post # 75, which I'm sure whether you read or not. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #94 |
172. post # 165 addresses post # 75. nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. And Cenk utterly lied on the drug reimportation plan. That is utterly false! |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Source? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Exactly. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. Post# 75. n/t |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Except that drug prices already increased 9% and cancelled out the so called savings!!! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Please stop feeding me the same post that has nothing to do with what I posted. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #93 |
163. Obama most definitely did not support the reimportation amendment when it came to the Senate floor |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
174. Post # 165 nt |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. +1000000000000000000 |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. Post# 75. n/t |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. How 'bout this? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Aye? You supported a post that demanded I produce the source. I did. n/t |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I've seen your "sources." |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Alright..these are articles and quotes directly from the mouths of the people involved. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
203. Wasn't the White House contention that they were protecting the public? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
165. Post # 75 is a link to 2 article which report the President says he still supports reimportation |
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vegiegals (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #165 |
194. Yes, slimly slick!! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. Here you go...I have no problems providing the source since I saw it with my own eyes. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. From your link. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. As a matter of fact. You and I don't know the details of the deal that was struck. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. The deal makes perfect sense to me. The white house confirmed it after Tauzin announced it. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:41 PM Original message |
What did I say?! |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
102. We all know what the deal was in August. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. Your post has NO, ABSOLUTELY NO, relation to my post now or originally. n/t |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #111 |
204. You just posted that nobody knows the details of the deal.... |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
104. More on the deal from link above. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. Your post still doesn't prove that what Cenk said about Obama not supporting Dorgan is true. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #116 |
164. The White House intervened to get Reid to delay the vote on Dorgan's amendment |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #116 |
166. See post # 165. nt |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #116 |
206. Your credibility is slipping fast, I would suggest that you quit the issue. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
189. Sen Dorgen himself said the WH had ordered the drug reimportation bill pulled |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #189 |
193. Oh, Saracat! There you go refuting perfectly good talking points with facts and logic! |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Except that drug prices already increased 9% and cancelled out the so called savings!!! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. I don't know what that has to do with my post. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. Obama handed Baucus the reins on health care and the PHRMA deal which omitted drug re-importation. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. Once again your post is irrevelant to post #'s 40, 46, or 75. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #112 |
208. Don't keep saying that we don't know the details of the deal. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
167. Post # 165 answers post # 75. nt |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
74. No it's not. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Post# 75. Plus Obama was on camera supporting it considering it had Repub support. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. He made a deal witrh PHRMA that excluded it. nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. You don't know what was in the "deal." |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. White House Affirms Deal on Drug Cost |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #99 |
115. Go to post no.# 75 since you push to be obtuse. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
109. Funny - WH originally denied the deal, we do know that nobody in the ... |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Did you like so many other's ignore what was the start of this discussion? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #114 |
144. Cenk had his facts wrong? Or lied? He's in the media.. |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Attention whore headline? I hope you know that was ProSense's headline, not Cenk's headline!!! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. I think cenk can take responsibility for his own attentionwhoredom. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #114 |
169. Post # 165 explains the disconnect between what Obama said (supporting Dorgan's amendment) and what |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
168. post # 165 addresses post # 75. nt |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. I believe that the whole damn system is corrupt |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. That's the truth sister. nt |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
209. You are right on. The whole situation stinks. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
70. No I do not. nt |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
82. I think it was a bad deal. And it didn't match the kind of "transparency" he promised. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
89. Yes. nt |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
95. Absolutely the administration is on the take. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
96. In a system of legalized bribery, it's hard to find any politician who isn't |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
117. Cenk makes some good points in that video |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
118. Cenk? |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. LOL!!! He's interviewed Maddow and been on Olbermann's show and Ratigan's show and so many others. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Let the guest list speak for itself |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Indeed. |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Ignorants fools are people you disagree with? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. I think "ignorant fools" was anyone who characterized the SOTU as an embarrassment. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #130 |
138. "I don't want to punish the banks" was not only an embarrassment- but one of the more tone deaf |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. Wait a minute. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. It's gratuitous phrasing that didn't need to be put in the speech |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. "that includes Bush's speeches." |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #142 |
148. Bush's speeches were embarrassing, but tended not to include things counterproductive to his agenda |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Your response is completely counter to your previous remark. n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. How do figure? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #154 |
173. Well, he was pretty damn successful except for two signature policy initiatives... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #173 |
186. Had he privatized social security, he'd be up there with FDR and LBJ in terms of achievements |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. If McCain had won....Also, your memory is flawed. |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #142 |
201. "what kind of person holds up Bush's speeches as superior to Obama's?" |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #138 |
170. "I don't want to punish the banks." Unvbelievable! nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Ha. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Yeah, Cenk has been around on all the shows.. |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. Of course not. |
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Sky Masterson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
119. Somebody is always on the take. |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
125. ... |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #125 |
131. Look at me!!! |
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MedfordTim (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #131 |
143. I noticed!! +1, k&r |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #125 |
134. +1 |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #125 |
136. Wow, powerful argument... where am I...? |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
135. I call for an investigaton! |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
140. Boy, you sure trapped the usual suspects, ProSense |
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CherylK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. LOL! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #140 |
149. There have only been insults, nothing to refute the Sunlight's Foundation's |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #140 |
175. taunting and devil smilies aside... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Sure |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. ok, we know where you stand on Cenk and on certain DUers |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #176 |
218. ..... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #140 |
185. Your post is example A. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
152. I believe a lot of us have been calling for the administration to come clean on the deal with PhRMA |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-14-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
153. Deleted message |
Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
179. IF they ARE "on the take" |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #179 |
183. The reports, early on, dismissed by some were that Rahm's plan was for a very industry friendly bill |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #183 |
207. Great points., and I couldn't agree more. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
181. Every administration is "on the take" to one degree or another. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
191. He is a politician and they are all on the take |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #191 |
212. If he was caught with a bag full of money on videotape I'd still vote for him again. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
196. I read some of the comments. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
200. Yes. Yes I do. |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
210. ProSense, I think you should have a telephone or Skype debate with Cenk. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. I think that's a wonderful idea. |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. Without a list of talking points from the handler? That's hilarious. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-15-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
217. The lady doth protest too much... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. Pathetic. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #219 |
220. Please tell me it didn't take you a week to come up with that. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
221. Well more likely than not. Its pretty clear deals were cut with the "stakeholders" |
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