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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:31 PM Original message |
Randy Rhodes: There is no FREE SPEECH in this Country it's a fantasy |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. she was fired? |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yes from Air America for making fun of Hillary Clinton during the campaign |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I'm not a fan of Hillary |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. While MC'ing an event completely unrelated to her show. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I can't remember exactly what she said |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. She called her a big fucking whore. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. She didn't mention size (ha ha) |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. that might be reason to fire someone |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #52 |
67. She was fired for having a political opinion which differed from that of her employer. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
66. Calling a former First Lady and then sitting Senator a "big fucking whore" |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
83. even Goebbels believed in freedom of speech for people he agreed with |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Meh. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. First amendment fail. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Correct. n/t |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Free from government control |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Probably because the Founders didn't see a time when corporations would own the government |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
63. Corporations do not own the government |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Wake up. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. It's not that bad |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
85. WAKE THE FUCK UP |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. My mother told me the same thing over fifty years ago |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. What is she talking about? Nobody threw her in jail |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 06:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
64. I think she means that free speech has a price, so it is not really free. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's really shocking how many people don't actually understand this whole free speech business. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. So |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. I don't know. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
79. You don't know? Do you pay attention? Helen Thomas would not have been forced |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
57. are you suggesting someone from 'government' got Rhodes fired? n/t |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
76. The Supreme Court isn't that stupid. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. I will say this again. They have a right to fire you for what you say on the job |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Of course it's their business... |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. No kidding. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. She was fired for calling Hillary a "big fucking whore." |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. She said that in a night club doing stand up which had nothing to do with |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. If your job is to be a public figure, then you have to be careful |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yes, in this day and age you do have to be, but that isn't freedom |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. What country was that? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Chile before our country got President Allende assassinated and replaced him |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Unfortunately for Randi |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
58. Maybe not according to her contract for employment.... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Her contract also said Air America couldn't fire her - that's why they manufactured this incident. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
70. She was forced to quit because Air America wanted to renegotiate her contract, and she didn't. |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. The bottom line is you can't say shit bad about Israel without getting lambastic |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No one in this country says a word when |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Oh boo hoo you can't make antisemitic comments. Boo hoo! nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 06:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
62. Actually, you can |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Yes, anti-Semites are horribly persecuted. |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. Bullshit |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-11-10 04:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
86. I started a whole OP because of assholes like you. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. And you can't say good things about Hugo Chavez because it's |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Good point. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. And that's why all the pro-Chavez posters on DU have been rounded up and thrown into prison |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. I think you are looking for the word lambasted. n/t |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
81. That's the point I've been making over and over and over again for the last couple of |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who said the right to free speech protected you from someone else's free speech? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. Helen's been arrested? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. She lost her job as a White House reporter after fifty years because she |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:01 PM Original message |
Delete dupe post. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. And deservedly so. The government didn't fire her. Her employer did. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
82. And Pat Buchanan still has a job. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-10-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. If you actually think Pat keeps his "mouth relative shut about Israel", you might want to |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. She resigned because she made a vile, offensive comment |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. She's almost ninety years old and it seems she could have gotten some |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Hard to maintain credibility as a journalist and then plead |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. She wasn't on the job. She was being interviewed and expressed a personal |
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kurtzapril4 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. That's what I thought |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Does that also apply to non-journalists? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. you could say the same thing about Al Campanis, Don Imus, and any |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. But those guys were on the job when they said those things. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. wrong. Campanis was being interviewed. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Then Campanis shouldn't have been fired. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
80. And then quickly rehired by someone else. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 06:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
60. But the thing is, she can still go on and say what she wants |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
25. That's a failure in understanding the first amendment, Randi |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
26. and Randy demonstrates that she doesn't understand the legal concept of "free speech" |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. Helen The Greek |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
41. She was fired by the government???? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Randi spent 60 days in jail and had to do 400 hours of community service |
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tledford (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
47. By the way, her name is Randi. eom |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. Let's face it, Tom (Randi), and all due respect. The Don, rest in peace, was slippin' |
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Boudica the Lyoness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
59. America is kind of right wing. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Oh yes, obedience above all. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
61. So she was just free to say that |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
65. I think the lack of understanding the Constitution is sad. n/t |
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amb123 (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
71. There is Freedom of Speech, but only for right wingers. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
75. Haha. I can't believe anyone with even the slightest bit of interest in politics can have such a |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-10 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
78. Free speech only exists for those on "the right", just ask the Dixie Chicks, Phil Donahue, |
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