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    | Joe Madison: All three woman Cain harassed are white blond and blue eyed | 
  
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         Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 07:44 AM by bigdarryl And the media is trying to hide the identity of them. DAMN!!!!!!!!Herman Herman you can't treat Caucasian woman like there easy pray | 
  
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    |  | you sly devil, you......
 Gawd, how I hope they talk.
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    | 2. what media?   the left wing or the right wing.  Hahahah | 
  
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    | 3. He was talking in general | 
  
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    | 4. I wonder what his wife of 43 years have to say about this? /n | 
  
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    | 5. So, Big D, what does the "white blondes" say about him? nt | 
  
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    | 6. I love The Black Eagle, but how does Joe know this for sure? | 
  
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    | 10. he said he spoke to a VERY RELIABLE source over this past weekend | 
  
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    | 7. And how old were they when this happened | 
  
    |  | compared to how old he was? Another interesting question.No one has mentioned their ages so far. He will be 66 in December (born 1945).
 The charges stem from 1996 to 1999 when he was between 51 and 54.
 How old were these women at the time?
 
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    | 8. Is that somehow worse than if he had harassed black women? | 
  
    |  | Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 09:25 AM by MineralMan I don't see it. Unrecced for irrelevance and other stuff. | 
  
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    | 11. not for those YAHOOS down South | 
  
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    | 12. His yahoo base wouldn't mind if he harrassed a black woman but if it were a white woman | 
  
    |  | those 'good ol' boys' will be up in arms. | 
  
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    | 37. Ding, Ding.  If Anita Hill had been white, Thomas would not be on SCOTUS. (nt) | 
  
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    | 13. Precisely. I have said I am GLAD we dont know ... | 
  
    |  | ... these women's race, so that the issue can't be about that. The poster's glee at posting that info is exactly the reaction I don't want to see. The ACT needs to be the focus. | 
  
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    | 15. The OP was "gleeful"? Really? Why do you say this? | 
  
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    | 46. that's the tone i interpreted from the presentation, you didnt? | 
  
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    | 47. NOPE!! I noted sarcasm and believe that the OP had no ill intention. | 
  
    |  | The sarcasm reflects the sheer stupidity of the Corporate Media and Herman Cain himself. It also points to the sad reality that race matters. | 
  
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    | 14. Whether you realize, admit it  or not, it will *always* matter MORE when a black man | 
  
    |  | Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 09:42 AM by Liberal_Stalwart71 has allegedly harassed a white woman. 
 Recommended, because this country still has a MAJOR problem with race.
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    | 16. It doesn't matter to me. It is the alleged harassment that is the | 
  
    |  | issue, not the race of the alleged victims. I don't care what matters to other people. This is Democratic Underground. It shouldn't matter to us, either.
 It's a bogus issue.
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    | 18. Not a bogus issue at all. If you can't come to terms with the history of race in this country | 
  
    |  | Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 10:22 AM by Liberal_Stalwart71  and the damage that it has done to it, then I can't help you.
 I do not believe, for one second, that the OP is suggesting that the act of harassment itself is not disgusting; or, is trying to minimize the allegations in any way.
 
 I do, however, believe that the race of the victim(s) WILL matter. A lot!
 
 It's a sad truth, but it is the truth whether you accept it or not.
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    | 21. Perhaps, but not one in need of inflammation | 
  
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    | 22. I agree, but the OP was simply pointing out the reality. It *will* matter. And that's what's so sad. | 
  
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    |  | Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 10:55 AM by EffieBlack I"ve often wondered if Clarence Thomas would be on the bench if Anita Hill were a white woman. | 
  
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    | 24. This Is Going To Get Ugly | 
  
    |  | The charges are grievous enough. Now, the race element is going to take the story in directions we can not forsee now. | 
  
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    | 19. Recced for relevance. You deliberately miss the point. | 
  
    |  | It's not that it would be 'somehow worse', it's how the Good 'Ol Boys who support Cain will perceive it.
 THAT is the relevance.
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    | 25. Well, that explains why we haven't learned more about these women up to now... | 
  
    |  | the RW didn't want the Cain roller coaster to screech to a dead stop!
 Can't wait to see how this turns out...:popcorn:
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    | 26. I Disagree. His Supporters Will Double Down | 
  
    |  | His supporters would deny the charges even if nuns were making them. | 
  
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    | 27. I guess there's truth to that, too...they hate all women, esp. those who accuse | 
  
    |  | men of sexual harassment ("C'mon honey, can't you take a little joke?")...
 I can see that...but we'll see what prevails...whatta circus...
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    | 28. I Don't Wish His Victims To Be Of Any Color | 
  
    |  | But if they are white this story is going to go in a lot of directions, some of which may be ugly.  | 
  
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    | 20. No, but it does qualify for the Nancy Grace treatment | 
  
    |  | I think she has a mathematical algorithm for this kind of thing.
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    | 48. Sho' nuff! LOL!!! n/t | 
  
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    | 23. It is to racists. The GOP base. | 
  
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    | 43. That's what it is aimed at. | 
  
    |  | Get those boys riled-up.
 I don't know what the problem is. We're all Pink in the inside.
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    | 58. It's worse to racists | 
  
    |  | Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 10:49 PM by CakeGrrl One of the big racial taboos is black men getting with white women, dating at least back to the days of slavery - one of the driving reasons black men were sometimes castrated/mutilated during lynchings.
 That's why Fox News ran a banner about the President's polling problems titled "Obama has a problem with white women".
 
 It's worse than a dog whistle - it's a racist third rail.
 
 To wit:  There's a scene in the movie "Glory" (about black Union soldiers in the Civil War) where a high-ranking white officer allows some of his black soldiers to ransack Confederate houses.  When they harass a white woman in one house, he warns them to "leave the white woman alone" then shoots one of them in the arm.  That's the line not to be crossed.
 
 Herman's all good and well when he's entertaining the voters, but when he messes with the white women...we'll see.
 
 
 
 
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    | 17. "Where are all the white women at"? | 
  
    |  | Blazing saddles.  Hey, maybe they gave him the nickname "black walnut". | 
  
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    | 38. Greatest Movie Ever Made. | 
  
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    |  | DAMN!!!!!!!!Herman Herman you can't treat  woman like they are easy pray
 
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    | 30. I'm finding this post offensive | 
  
    |  | Let's keep the racial identity of both victims and offenders out of the issue of sexual harrassment: it's about power of the privileged over the weak. We should even keep gender out of it: it could be a female executive harrassing a lower level male worker; it can be male on male, female on female, and any color, nationality, etc.
 When people behave badly other people get hurt.
 
 
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    |  | So they can point at us and say "See!!!!" | 
  
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    | 51. Race actually does play a part in the issue. | 
  
    |  | This is a classic case of classicism, race, and sexism. | 
  
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    | 31. i don't fully understand this post | 
  
    |  | I'm getting the general drift, but this is a touchy topic that needs some precision when it's discussed.  What exactly Madison said and what exactly his point was, what exactly is the OP's point, etc. | 
  
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    | 49. Translation: The history of race in this country has centered almost entirely | 
  
    |  | around the black male and his supposed virility. White slaveowners warned that black men are sexual predators out to mate with white women. And black men were beaten, even lynched at even the suggestion that white women were pursued or winked at.
 The Southern Strategy entailed scaring white people about black people in general, but black men in particular.
 
 Again, if people don't think this issue will quickly turn into a "race thing" should these women be white, they're deluding themselves.
 
 
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    | 50. it's already a race thing | 
  
    |  | for example, this is the second thread at DU that has played up the race aspect of the story.  I'm under the impression that the OP, bigdarryl, is himself black, but regardless, I think this thread is be hyping the race aspect.
 Then again, like I said originally, I don't understand the OP completely.
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    | 54. DU didn't not initiate the "race thing." Herman Cain did. The Right Wing media and punditry did! | 
  
    |  | Didn't you hear Limbaugh and Ann Coulter's asinine comments? Didn't you hear Herman Cain pull the race card?
 Don't blame DU!! This is NOT our doing.
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    |  | White slaveowners warned that black men are sexual predators out to mate with white women.
 That same lie was told about Native American men. That they all "wanted a white woman" when in reality, the only thing they probably wanted less was small pox.
 
 What's truly ironic is that the whole time the lie that "black men all wanted a white woman" was being spread by white slavemasters, guess who was tiptoeing into the slave quarters at night?  Clue for the clueless: all of those mulatto babies born during slavery?  Most of them did NOT come from white women.
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    | 32. Aw, shucky ducky . . . nt | 
  
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    | 35. Wow of wows - if that's true, it probably will finish Cain | 
  
    |  | I don't think southern conservatives are completely over the times and the days when a black male would be murdered for just whistling at a white woman and the police would do nothing to investigate the crime.  I thought Cain would survive this scandal because conservatives will support any transgression by a fellow conservative.  But in this case, I'm not so sure.  There's a lot of racial prejudice still simmering beneath the surface. | 
  
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    | 36. I Disagree. His Supporters Will Double Down | 
  
    |  | However this kills him with women and independent voters. Too bad it didn't break in October, after he got the nomination if he ever did. | 
  
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    | 39. That would have been awesome. | 
  
    |  | The resounding noise resulting from the entire Republican ticket crashing to the ground would have been heard around the world. | 
  
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    | 40. shocking. Normally the MSM is all over blondes with | 
  
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    | 41. that would be easy "prey"... nt | 
  
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    | 42. He Used The Wrong Form Of There Too | 
  
    |  | But don't blame Darryl. Blame the education system that failed him. | 
  
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    |  | I'm not much of a spelling nanny but some things just scratch my eyes out. My all time #1 eye burner is when people transpose the words "loose and lose". | 
  
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    | 52. My 13 year old daughter said it's always the black dude! | 
  
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    | 56. Meh.. John Edwards is pretty light toned, IMHO | 
  
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    | 53. Looks like Joe was right on the identity of the woman at least one anyway | 
  
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    | 57. Does anybody take Cain seriously? NO | 
  
    |  | I am so tired of people wasting time posting about CLOWN CAIN! 
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