And in today's financial crooks news:

[No Elephants]

Ex-UBS trader Adoboli convicted of $2.3 billion fraud

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/20/us-ubs-trial-conviction-idUSBRE8AJ0L320121120



How gaming LIBOR became business as usual

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/20/us-libor-fixing-origins-idUSBRE8AJ0MH20121120




US futures reverse course as HP takes $8.8B hit (because of alleged massive fraud in sale to HP by Autonomy Corporation PLC of a British company.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-futures-reverse-course-hp-takes-88b-hit



Greece 'ready' for $40B bailout meeting

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/11/20/Greece-ready-for-40B-bailout-meeting/UPI-35441353398400/



Tell me again about "liar loans?"

[Enthusiast]

1. Poor people didn't cause the financial crisis?

Bah! :sarcasm:

We need regulation with teeth and real law enforcement. Any politician that isn't talking about the need for serious reform should be thrown out of office. Oh, wait! That would be the entire Republican Party and many Democrats.

[No Elephants]

2. Which politican is talking about the need for serious reform?

Right now, the national conversation seems to have shifted back to how much are we going to hurt seniors and the disabled, right where it was before OWS started.

The sequester served its purpose--deferred everything past the election.