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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 05:56 PM Original message |
You MUST know algebra |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good. n/t |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:33 PM Original message |
Algebra is not that hard and underlies most "word problems" of day to day life. nt |
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sammytko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
163. Thank you! That is algebra in a nutshell! |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #163 |
495. agree. They should just rename it 'Fun Math' and everyone would think differently |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
451. About 2 weeks ago, that was how I explained the need for it to my 8th grade son-- |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
454. I heard a RW talker trying to do basic math on the air today... LOL |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. And I forgot algebra, linear equations and Pythagorean theorem |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sounds like it should be more of a requirement |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't agree |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
43. When's the last time you used a quadratic equation? |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Engineers don't fiddle with that stuff any more, they have computers |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Somebody DID write the code for those pesky quadratics...and MORE |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
364. All that is great. Its still important our kids know math. n/t |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
380. Try the TI Voyage 200 sometime. It does symbolic calculus. Course the students |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #380 |
461. Was not zero a technicological breakthrough as a place holder? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #461 |
473. I'd call it philosophical. It changes the thoughts I can have. What I make with those thoughts |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #461 |
509. it's not just the numbers |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
117. LOL. Great retort. Have you been lurking for awhile or is it chance that a |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #60 |
262. That's what my dear hubby does for fun |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:08 AM Response to Reply #60 |
288. Re a Mars probe crashing because |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
110. I agree with you. We need to stress critical thinking skills in our students. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #110 |
153. Math develops the best critical thinking skills |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #153 |
313. I teach English, and I agree. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #153 |
317. Interestlingly, so does acquiring a second language early in life... |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #317 |
339. Totally agree! |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #339 |
371. Absolutely right. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #371 |
463. Lionel, doesn't it seem strange the vehemence of some of the discussions here? |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #463 |
526. Yes, I was surprised by the vehemence. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #526 |
530. As to the whiz kids-- |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #371 |
486. There are scientific studies behind all this. |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #317 |
351. My son is learning American Sign Language as well as English |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #317 |
467. And giving children puzzles to work and play with in early life |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #153 |
444. Music has been proven to be a better skill for critical thinking. Children who know how to play |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #444 |
466. Learning music theory can be similar to learning basic Calculus |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #444 |
490. I have noticed that the Yalies I run into here in New Haven all seem to have a musical |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
143. Just because you never have to rattle off your times tables after elementary school |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:20 AM Response to Reply #143 |
270. Yeah, and I can deduce from your salty reply that |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
299. Then they were not real engineers. How did they solve projectile motion problems in Physics I? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #299 |
309. All right. They weren't "real engineers" |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #309 |
314. If only we were talking about "advanced math" here. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #314 |
340. See? Reading comprehension is important. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #340 |
383. What, "completely?" If you relied on the adjective to give the entire meaning then... |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #383 |
389. Seriously. How did you deduce that I want to "stop requiring the basics in one field |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #389 |
418. Yes, pseudo-outrage is usually how the humanities types I didn't like ended arguments too. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #418 |
452. Well, diatribes aside... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #452 |
464. AAAAAARGH! Don't DO that! :) |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #464 |
494. I DO plant the seed. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #494 |
584. Sorry this is late. I'm glad to hear that. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:27 AM Response to Reply #584 |
591. Back atcha, Podnuh! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #418 |
531. 3/7ths of a liberal education is mathematics |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #309 |
402. Tom Landry was an electrical engineer |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #402 |
472. how do you know he didnt suck at it. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #472 |
475. Suck or not, it changed who he was and how he thinks. nt |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #472 |
511. Suck at EE or suck at running the Cowboys? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #299 |
448. Atmospheric scientists and |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #448 |
480. I'd say it means they don't have the intuition to understand when their models may be lying to them. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #480 |
500. That is the truth. Computers are great for automating a lot of stuff, |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #480 |
503. Then how do you explain the greater increase in accurate |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #503 |
585. Well, isn't it true that system was set up by the people who understood it? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #585 |
587. First off, atmospheric science and climate science are two different disciplines. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #587 |
588. So we have an answer. The *scientists* work in the supercomputing centers. The rest are users. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #588 |
593. No, you have to have a hard science degree in either |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #448 |
518. Meteorlogists have calculus in their introductory books. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #518 |
525. But most no longer learn models. Two of the best meteorology schools in the country |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #525 |
586. Hopefully, you mean meteorology as in the TV weather forecasters. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #43 |
312. I'm a parapro, the writing coach at an alternative high school. |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
529. I'm glad I went into the sciences, under your theory we shouldn't read either since the Kindle will |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. Many people don't realize it's algebra because it isn't. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Solving equations involves arithmetic |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Yeah, kinda like how filling my dog's bowl with kibble is animal husbandry. eom |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Not really. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Yes, really. You don't need to take algebra to master shopping or any basic life task. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
136. As others have tried to tell you in this thread, |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #136 |
142. And as I've told all of you, I knew how to do it before I took algebra. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #142 |
203. You can use algebra without training. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #203 |
239. Exactly my point! |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #239 |
273. You can figure it out by trial and error too. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #273 |
281. So tell us how the students among us are supposed to figure it out |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #281 |
324. Well, here are a few ideas: |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #281 |
326. If you mean the numeric expression... |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #239 |
336. What a joke. To graduate from high school and not know algebra is a fucking embarrassment. |
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fishbulb703 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #336 |
520. +1000 nt |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
582. Oh, cool, so educating anyone beyond what they need to shop is a waste of time.; |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
458. Not every equation is an algebraic equation. Many problems are just simplified |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. Math is part of the tool kit in many things. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. gcc is free and top-notch. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
65. Until justice is restored, not really doing much coding. |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
188. You got it right, RT |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. I used it every day in nursing |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Well, you do, but you don't realize it. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. Insects and birds also use calculus without realizing it. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. How many people use knowledge of world history in their daily lives? |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. What? You don't watch Jeopardy? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
479. I always wanted to see the category "Calculus" |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Point well taken. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
191. History is important to the formation of good citizens. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #191 |
300. But you don't use history at the grocery store either. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
329. Most history we teach is a lie, mainly by omission. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #329 |
534. Especially US history. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
192. The daily events of our govt/nation transcend grocery shopping. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
279. I love how "buying something in the grocery store" is the benchmark criteria in this thread. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #279 |
338. I know I use the Levenberg-Marquardt algorithm all the time |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #279 |
381. this is sad. huh? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #279 |
387. It's something almost all of us do regularly, and using algebra helps. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Every student in every classroom in every generation has asked the same questions. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. +1 |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. That;'s a good thing... |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. We are still far behind much of the world in math n/t |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
108. How should we catch up? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. Then we have to do a better job at TEACHING it |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
169. How could you learn statistics without algebra or calculus? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. I just did |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #170 |
318. I can understand that a bit -- I didn't like pure math nearly as much as physics. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #170 |
321. That was my experience. I kinda liked statistics and used it constantly when |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #170 |
541. A certain amount of applied statistics is fairly visual, I suppose |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. So are you suggesting we do away with it and never let people try? |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
92. No, I am not suggesting that. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. If algebra isn't for everyone then neither are high school diplomas or college admission. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #93 |
115. I agree with half of your statement. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
130. As a musician I had exactly zero use for algebra, calc, or trig |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. And how much use for a HS diploma did you have? Or for that matter a program of study that's not... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #130 |
140. I am surprised, as most math geeks |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #130 |
171. My son played the oboe in high school |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #130 |
185. I know lots of musicians who are math geeks. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #130 |
290. In contrast. MOST of the math geeks I knew in high school |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #290 |
532. Yep. I knew a guy in college who simultaneously got master's degrees in EE and violin performance. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #532 |
546. In high school I majored in Music |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #130 |
342. Actually a lot of mathematicians are highly skilled musicians. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #342 |
523. Yes, but few working musicians are skilled mathematicians |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #523 |
528. A mathematically inclined musician has a much better expected income |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #130 |
366. I'm married to a musician. Both my kids are musicians. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
406. sorry - but I have to go with the others here |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #93 |
194. I had calculus in hs before I became an English teacher, and it was good only for |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. So make it an elective for everyone? Would the same go for geometry, |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
120. Yes. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #92 |
107. You realize Algebra is a pretty low requirement |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. Yes and no. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #125 |
138. As I said, there is a reason the US is falling behind |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #138 |
179. Thank you for the free hint, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #179 |
244. How far do you want to dumb the population? |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #244 |
276. Here are my answers to your questions. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #244 |
325. What do you think of courses that are "Calculus for the Fine Arts major'? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #325 |
345. I had a he'll of a time with it |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
133. I can see requiring it for college bound or certain trade school tracks. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
156. Make algebra an elective. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #156 |
167. I will ask you too |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #167 |
175. Who cares about other countries? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #175 |
228. Guess what, linear algebra WAS what you used |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #228 |
231. Yeah, I'm sure... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #231 |
237. Given that I took algebra at the JUNIOR HIGH LEVEL |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #237 |
238. Argument fail. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #238 |
241. So since you hate it, we should scrap it |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #241 |
274. I don't think we should scrap it. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #274 |
347. So let's make history elective |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #347 |
422. Argument fail. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #422 |
434. Nah that's the logical end of your argument |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #237 |
547. I'll follow your point, since it relates to how I've used it... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #547 |
562. In the good ol' days I got all my meds |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #175 |
350. Geometry without algebra? How is that possible? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #350 |
410. They had geometry for millennia before there was algebra |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #410 |
415. I can safely assume that the geometry people learn today uses algebra. nt |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #415 |
423. I disagree |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #423 |
428. Distances are inherently geometric and often require algebra to calculate. (as just one example) |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #428 |
432. Right, but geometry is not about finding out how many meters long the side of a triangle is |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #432 |
440. The poster above said he used geometry at work, but not algebra. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #156 |
403. You have 8 dollars |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. Eh, if more Americans could do fairly basic mathematics.. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. IMHO introductory statistics and logic would be far more useful in HS than algebra. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. All covered under the rubric of "fairly basic mathematics" |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. Eh, what is called "basic Econ" is more often than not RW Capitalist assumptions treated as fact. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. Good point about "basic Econ".. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
113. yep, it annoys me how many unjustified economic assumptions are treated as fact. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
126. That's what I meant, Odin. Personal finance. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Ah, OK! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. It is about learning how to learn, learning how to solve problems |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. I use algebra pretty much every time I go to the grocery store. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
94. Unless you are setting up equations with unknowns |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. "How much" is probably the unknown. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. That's right. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #103 |
327. The unknown is the answer |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #327 |
468. Techinically, sure. But just taking his requirement of 2 unknowns, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #94 |
459. Just about every grocery list is a number of unknowns that sum or multiply to your budget. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
465. Uh, no. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #465 |
469. Maybe this is a consequence of credit cards |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #469 |
487. Yeah, maybe so. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #487 |
493. LOL. My uncle was an engineer who had wanted to be a mathematician. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #493 |
510. It really is beautiful, when it saves my butt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #510 |
514. I hope you taped that 27 cents up on the frig. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
196. How? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
367. The various responses not understanding what you mean are very disturbing. n/t |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sigh. nt |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I knew I had this little news item archived somewhere: |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
127. Heh heh. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
131. My entire life has been spent wondering why f was at x in the first place. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
264. Welcome to DU and that was HYSTERICALLY funny |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #29 |
362. The only relevant response to this is: |
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. My theory about high school students and higher mathematics: |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. Bertrand Russell had a different take on this. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. That's an interesring hypotenuse. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. Unrec. The requirement is reasonable, kowtowing to morons who are afraid of math is wrong. |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Thank you, I meet way too many Americans who think education is for losers. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
20. I use it all the time in comparison shopping |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I have never once used algebra to determine unit price. All you need is basic division. eom |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. You don't solve for "X", the unknown unit price? nt |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
76. Technically, I suppose, yes. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
202. No, actually. That information is ALWAYS spelled out on the store tag. EXAMPLE: |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #202 |
213. Always? I run a retail grocery store |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #213 |
221. The chains do. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #202 |
217. I've noticed that sometimes it's incorrect or that they use inconsistent units. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #217 |
363. Inconsistent units is very common, in my experience, and usually a flag that |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #202 |
307. Actually, not "always". And, consider solvint for 'x' if you need to pour |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. Knowing what numbers to plug into that basic division problem is algebra |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #77 |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. If you care about how much you pay for groceries, you should know basic algebra |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Why do you need algebra for that? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Because you need to be able to compare several items at once. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Everything you cited can be accomplished with simple arithmetic. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. That's because systems of linear equations are done with simple arithmetic. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. those are the vast majority of equations most people will ever do. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. A non-systematic approach to a math problem may yield a solution. |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
101. Which is....algebra! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. It was decided to charge $1.25 a pound for the mixed nuts and decrease the proportion of cashews. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #101 |
206. Nobody in real life does those problems long-hand. And no, arithmetic is NOT "algebra." |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
82. If I had to go through all of that when I was shopping for 6 kids |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
204. I actually don't "need" to do at least half of your list. In any case, addition and subtraction |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. But it IS algebra. You are working out an unknown "x", the price per unit. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Yet you can get to that, and I always do, without the 'x = c/o" entering into my mind. |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Okay, fine...so what do you imagine algebra actually IS? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
207. IOW, using algebra is intuitive, so why require it as a school subject for graduation? |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
225. That is a difficult question, but I'll give it a shot. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
205. See photo below. That info is always posted by the store (do you look at the shelves?): |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. Kids have dropped out because of it. That doesn't help anyone. |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. Moreover, the state university systems require it prior to admission |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Does the community college have tutors available? |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Yes, and they're good and I used them once already. I have to try again so back to them I go |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
70. I had to do the ELM too |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #70 |
346. I can't even imagine. ;) I'll look up the Shaums Guide, thanks. n/t |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
365. Schaumms is great. I highly recommend it to anyone. Great bang for the buck too. nt |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. It is 60 miles to my destination and I'm driving a constant 30 mph. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
210. IOW, we can solve certain practical mathematical problems WITHOUT passing algebra. |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. Even if you will never use it again after high school... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
211. "Math as brain exercise" is a myth. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #211 |
369. LOL! |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #211 |
370. Says what source(s) ? n/t |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. I would say first year algebra is a great minimum requirement. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. I have yet to be provided one mundane use for algebra that wouldn't be covered by basic arithmetic. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. It's the unknown factor |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. That a lot of us learned to do before we took algebra class. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
89. If I cut that tree down, will it hit my house? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
141. You decide to buy 4 bananas and they cost 29 cents each |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #141 |
161. Thank you for this answer! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #161 |
178. I'm sitting here LMAO |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. I'm shaking my head. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #184 |
316. Yeah, this is just astonishing. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #316 |
349. Anti- intellectualism is as American as apple pie, unfortunately |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
504. Exactly! I'm a bookeeper and 98% of my daily math to do my job is strictly basic arithmetic. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
34. It builds the mental processes for other tasks you will have to do. Unrec. n/t |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. I used the Pyhagorean theorem yesterday doing carpentry. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Here's a tip: Don't insult your Algebra teacher while he's dating your mother. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
277. I think that was a Gilmore Girls episode. |
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IrishEyes (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Good |
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
49. It took 3 attempts for me to pass it.and I graduated with a 3.5 average |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
52. I used Pythagorean daily when I was checking my buildings for 'square'. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
53. You're required to learn algebra for one reason..... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. I got a B in my algebra class |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
519. Calc isn't too bad |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
57. Solving for X is a part of every day life, even grocery shopping. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Even something as mundane as getting drunk requires algebra. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
212. Fine. That's about Week One of Algebra One. Enough. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
58. Try graduating in Germany or Austria before you bitch about algebra |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
158. That might be a bit of a problem |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
223. Are we losing jobs to Germany and Austria? |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #223 |
294. What does that have to do with graduation requirements? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #223 |
302. No, but we run a 700 billion dollar trade deficit, they run a 300 billion dollar trade surplus. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
61. I believed as you when I graduated HS |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
62. There are a lot of things you don't NEED to learn to function, but that is no excuse not to learn. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
85. I also think having a good teacher makes a world of difference |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
68. Good |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
78. I had to take two years of algebra to graduate high school |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
232. You have no idea how helpful it is for Excel. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
87. Great! To answer your questions, here's mine: |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. And, let me add... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Given this thread, I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of people are fudging it. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
88. I use it every day |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
146. I also think algebra is fun. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #146 |
154. I partially agree |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
90. People are "terrified of the algebra requirement"? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #90 |
114. People, especially women, have been culturally brainwashed into hating math. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #114 |
249. DIng, DIng, Ding |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
91. The larger purpose of math is concrete thinking, solid logic, and problem solving. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. And shouldn't school BE hard? |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. THANK YOU!!!!! |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. School *is* hard.. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. So we need to change school but removing the elements which require thinking isn't the solution. n/t |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. +1 |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Thinking is the last thing our politicians want our kids to learn in school.. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. I was "insubordinate" My offense? Writing a paper supporting pot legalization. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Yep, insubordinate is another term for independent thinkers.. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #95 |
116. Haven't you gotten the memo? anything that hurts a students "self-esteem" is bad. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
118. People have struggled with math classes for years. This isn't a new phenomena. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Writing and math are both important aspects of a high school education |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
129. Why high school for algebra? Why not junior high? Why not elementary? |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #129 |
149. algebraic, geometry, statistical math is useless without the basics. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #149 |
168. That is NOT what I'm saying. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #129 |
181. Algebraic principles ARE taught in elementary school |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Then passing algebra in 8th grade should be no trouble at all! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #183 |
208. It is in my school district |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #208 |
219. If your district is succeeding at that, good on you. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #219 |
222. Are you sure you passed? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #222 |
235. Got Bs in both. |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #222 |
390. LOL! |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #129 |
214. Watching my 11 yo's public school math -- he GETS systems of eqns. for homework. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:06 AM Response to Reply #121 |
304. When was the last time you needed to write a Haiku? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #118 |
193. If you can't understand algebra, you surely will not be able to write |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #193 |
252. Are you suggesting there have been no good writers who didn't take algebra? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:54 AM Response to Reply #252 |
292. If you want to think clearly and write clearly, you should learn |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #193 |
283. Does that mean we shouldn't read Hesiod, Aeschylus, |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:47 AM Response to Reply #283 |
291. You should not limit your reading to Hesiod, Aeschylus, |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #291 |
348. Okay, how about Shakespeare? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #348 |
558. Actually, I like Shakespeare. But again, it is not enough for |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #118 |
332. I've seen people who do well in other subjects but tanked basic writing repeatedly |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #118 |
377. Agreed..more kids should be sent to graduate from vocational schools. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
374. ...and the quote of the day goes to....Statistical |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
104. texas you have to have four years math. alg, alg II, geometry and calculus. 4 yrs |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
220. Texans need calculus to get out of high school? Is that part of knowing the Earth was created 7,000 |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #220 |
240. fundamentalists are not only in texas and fundamentalism is not a part of the academic curriculum in |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
122. we need a nat'l requirement for knowing how to calculate exponentials |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
123. The principles and skills of algebra extend beyond numbers and math. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
132. They need it for college |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
134. I'm a nurse, I use Algebra every day. But I didn't know I was going to be a nurse when I was 16 |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
137. Huh? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
139. I took algebra and graduated from high school and |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #139 |
198. A person in sales needs to be able to calculate math very quickly. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
144. It's called education. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
145. We all use the concepts that we learn in algebra. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
148. i'm a historian... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Now if you were an econ historian I am betting you would |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #150 |
426. I hate econ history... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #426 |
457. There you go, but they use it all the time |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #457 |
505. Be sure to grab a good book on probability too. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #505 |
536. Well I guess I should go take a few math |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #505 |
556. Stats is to probability as science is to math. |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #556 |
583. Feller is an all around probability superstar. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:50 AM Response to Reply #583 |
589. I once went to a talk by Grothendieck. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #457 |
555. fortunately for me... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
151. I don't understand the hostility towards math: learning it develops many useful skills |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. I don't understand the inability to realize that not everyone has the same ability to do math. eom |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. Math is just following instructions, at least at this level. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #166 |
250. It's often taught that way but I consider that a grave pedagogical error |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #250 |
282. I agree. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #160 |
173. While it is true that people's interests and abilities differ, most of what |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #160 |
527. Not everyboy has the same ability to do history |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #151 |
215. (We English types like end punctuation.) |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #215 |
246. do we? i always admired hemingway's advice to remove anything |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
152. It teaches you to think. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #152 |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #152 |
162. There's other ways to think otther than algebra. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. so? Did it break your brain to learn a new skill? |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #165 |
172. No. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:05 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. Agonizing and stressful is good. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. I skated by with a D-. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #176 |
243. "No pain, no gain" is just as false in the brain |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
155. Algebra is useless unless you're going into the sciences. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #155 |
164. who cares if it's "necessary" or not? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #164 |
187. The problem is making it a requirement for a HS diploma |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #155 |
305. Apparently, logic is also useless? As long as we're cutting, I haven't used music/art either. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #155 |
306. And you knew what your life was going to be when you were 12? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #155 |
398. That is so untrue and wrong its hard to know where to start |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
157. Algebra is a type of critical thinking and a worthwhile skill to develop |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
174. If we set the intellectual bar that low we shouldn't be surprised |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
177. What a ridiculous requirement! It's far better that we keep the peasants ignorant. nt |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
182. Are you for reals? |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #182 |
287. So what does "know" mean? |
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jasperilla (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
186. Algebra teaches logical thinking, I think it should be a requirement n/t |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
189. At least if kids have all their math at graduation then some of them may go into the sciences. They |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
190. Even if you plan to be a "lowly carpenter" you better know math |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #190 |
199. it is a myth that "math trains your brain to think". LITERATURE does that. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. A well rounded person knows about math AND literature |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #200 |
218. I agree. I are one. However, to keep students from graduating because of algebra? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #218 |
248. If you teach algebra in middle school (like most do here) |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #248 |
361. We did... Same gripes |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #218 |
358. What do you think an Econ historian will use? |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #218 |
446. wow - I am thankful for the engineers |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:04 AM Response to Reply #199 |
247. Really? I thought it was Latin. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #199 |
355. Two main different areas of the brain. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #190 |
442. I like this reasoning |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
195. People can use calculators for math. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #195 |
320. Then you advocate scrapping basic arithmetic from the 2nd grade curriculum? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
197. Kids who struggle with algebra are four times more likely to drop out. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
201. Looks like someone didn't do well on their exams |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #201 |
209. I've heard reading is hard as well. And composition. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #209 |
227. Reading is a requirement. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #201 |
216. I did extremely well, and I don't agree with the requirement. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #216 |
226. Same here. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #201 |
229. Yeah, it's a shame to get rid of something we don't need. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #201 |
253. Non sequitur. Nor is it true. |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #253 |
323. You post implicitly questions the standards of the education system in CA |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #323 |
533. What's this, yet another accusation? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #533 |
574. Next time, state that. It might be best to read and revise before posting. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
224. Hmmm, along with lower standards I find OTHER signs of the decline of America at the dollar store. |
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Lindsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #224 |
234. Where I went to school in TX., Algebra was required if you wanted |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #234 |
236. That is perfectly reasonable. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #236 |
295. What you're really saying is that too many paths REQUIRE a high school diploma. |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
230. If you cook you use algebra every day |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #230 |
242. And plenty of people who never passed algebra in K-12 are able to do those things. |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:56 AM Response to Reply #242 |
285. It's not. I didn't pass algebra |
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LucySky (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
233. You mentioned the Pythagorean theorem in your OP. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #233 |
257. Yes, the Pythagorean theorem is really geometry, |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #257 |
386. Algebra is but written geometry; geometry is but drawn algebra. —Sophie Germain nt |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
245. Algebra was fun! |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
251. This thread is scary. I didn't expect to see so many DUers who are against |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #251 |
255. Well I use it for baking as I have to modify recipes |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #251 |
256. Another example. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #256 |
260. No algebra for you? |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #260 |
261. And you want high school kids , many of whom hate all subjects, to decide |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #261 |
267. Not exactly. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #267 |
271. That is a funny concept, really funny indeed |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #271 |
392. Wow, that's a heavy load. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #392 |
397. That is a COMMON load in public schools |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #397 |
515. Is that a common load in all other countries? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #515 |
537. Our school day was NOT short |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #537 |
544. Very interesting. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #544 |
545. That is one of the reasons |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #256 |
334. I started a job as an estimator just last month |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #256 |
335. You want to deepen that "permanent divide"? Require algebra for graduation. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #335 |
357. For those that can't graduate because they can't perform Algebra 101 |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #357 |
372. There is a link between algebra and dropout rates. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #372 |
424. your link supporting your statement wasn't working/linking...but.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #251 |
258. Our side has its own anti-intellectualism, the bashing of the technical and the coldly logical. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #258 |
265. Unfair! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #265 |
310. Algebra is not hard! The notion that it is comes from bad teaching and experiences. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #310 |
331. So because you ended up having a good experience |
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howard112211 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:10 AM Response to Reply #258 |
289. Indeed. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #251 |
259. We're not against algebra. We're against holding the HS diploma hostage to it. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #259 |
263. So we shouldn't require them to learn higher math so that they can learn higher math later? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:55 AM Original message |
No, we should encourage them taking higher math in K-12 at every opportunity |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #251 |
360. If you think that's bad, you should see the science threads. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #251 |
538. Lowest grade I got in high school was in algebra. I hated it. |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
254. Jesus, you argue like my 15 year old daughter. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
266. Good, we shouldn't let people too stupid/lazy to do algebra graduate high school |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
268. I had a crappy math teacher in high school |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
269. .I've developed a fascination with math in recent years. I used to be math phobic... |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #269 |
272. I think you're right about it being taught earlier |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
275. How many people use proper grammar in daily conversation as well? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #275 |
474. Bad comparison. "Proper Grammar" is not for daily conversations, it's for formal speech and writing. |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
278. Algebra 1 is easy as fuck |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
280. An understanding of the basics should be required |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
284. Innumeracy is rampant |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #284 |
296. +1 -- AN education is meant to challenge you. It isn't worth much if it doesn't. nt |
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howard112211 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
286. Then again, you don't HAVE to finish high school. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
293. Good. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
297. Basic algebra.. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
298. For some reason, my brain and algebra do not get along. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
301. As an adult, I have never played dodge ball either |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #301 |
337. Would you care if your prospective employee learned algebra in junior college rather than HS? |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #337 |
359. that's where we should set the bar for college? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #359 |
368. Good grief! Ever been to a community college? |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #368 |
431. in college, kids should be studying what should have been learned in middle school? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #431 |
435. In college, kids ARE studying those things. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #435 |
470. That's what GED's are for /nt |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #435 |
542. you are still arguing for the remedial as the new national standard? |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
303. IF USA wants to survive, this is a MUST. The rest of world labor force is moving ahead with algebra. |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
308. Critical thinking...requires the rigor of mathematics... |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
311. This is a good thing. After the basics of addition, subtraction, divison and |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
315. . |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #315 |
319. :) Shows why math teachers need to be proficient in writing as well as math. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #315 |
341. LOL! I love that one because it is THE easiest question |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
322. I believe that learning algebra is inherently good for peoples' brains |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
328. When I worked as a camera assistant, I used algebra all the time. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
330. Big heaping pile of "what's wrong with education today" in this thread, OP and replies both. (nt) |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
333. Definitely good. Math is the most important subject. |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
343. All this back and forth is about Elementary Algebra ? right ? we are not talking Abstract Algebra |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #343 |
379. Right. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #343 |
476. Right. Stuff like polynomials and quadratic equations. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
344. The stairs in my house are reversed because someone didn't know enough algebra |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #344 |
352. Ok that is funny and tragic at the same time |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #352 |
378. I show it to my visitors as the "Escher Memorial Staircase" |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #344 |
409. You're not the first person I've heard this from! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #344 |
478. Ugh, speaking of idiocracy!!! |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
353. I am astonished at the degree of energy we have on this topic. |
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Lionel Mandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #353 |
375. I too have been accused of everything except child abuse. |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
354. I can't believe that this is even up for debate, we've truly become the Culture of the Mediocre |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #354 |
373. Yes, VERY disturbing. Whenever I see/hear people saying things like... |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #373 |
394. Yes. Yes. and Yes. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #394 |
401. You agree that I should throw myself off a building? |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #401 |
419. I guess I wasn't clear. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #419 |
421. Ah, thanks! eom |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #373 |
400. So you're for a nationwide requirement for passing algebra to get a degree, right? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #400 |
405. Luckily, the TFA kids are cheap |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #405 |
408. LOL! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #408 |
412. Well, I pointed to a group of teachers... |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
356. Of course it should be a graduation requirement |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
376. I am working on a degree in Web Design.. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #376 |
393. Well..... maybe this will help? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #376 |
407. most designers would do better with some algebra and geometry as they help you |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #376 |
443. How fast does a page load? What factors affect that and how much influence does each factor have? |
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Lucky Luciano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #376 |
513. A lot of computer graphics uses linear algebra. |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #376 |
578. Maybe someday you'll have to whip up some javascript to something, and you'll need a bit of maths |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
382. It can be helpful for sorting out things |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
384. i found that i needed to know algebra to be able to afford to buy groceries |
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shawn703 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
385. What should a high-school diploma measure? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #385 |
395. So require all HS students to master algebra. While slashing school budgets at the same time. |
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shawn703 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #395 |
508. Did you reply to the wrong post? |
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Meeker Morgan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
388. Yeah baby. Teach them to count change and hand them a diploma. |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
391. As a pilot, an instructor and SME.... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #391 |
399. Heh! I was never good at math until... |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #399 |
455. Yep, then all of sudden trigonometry never looked so good..... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
396. So all of y'all who think requiring algebra for graduation is a good idea. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #396 |
404. Come on, algebra has been core curriculum forever. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #404 |
411. It's a core curriculum for college bound HS students. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #411 |
414. Requiring it for everyone saves money that would have to go to low level math curriculum development |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #414 |
416. Do you have a link for that assertion? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #416 |
420. You're correlation doesn't imply causation. Maybe both dropping out and failing algebra were... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #420 |
425. Take it up with LA School Superintendent Roy Romer |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #396 |
413. This is not a new requirement. You've needed Algebra since I was a kid in California. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #413 |
430. Maybe in your district in CA but it was more recent in LA. |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #396 |
436. I graduated from HS almost 15 years ago |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #436 |
438. Where did I say I 'hated' algebra? eom |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #396 |
551. When you frame it that way, the problem isn't the algebra requirement. The problem is the lack of |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
417. Back in the 80s when I was building power lines, algebra came in handy all the time. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
427. raising the bar...not lowering it |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #427 |
433. Raising the bar without the necessary supports |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #433 |
439. how math is taught |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #439 |
441. So you think there are no costs to this at all? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
429. Is this a new thing? Because I learned it ages ago in CA public school |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
437. They need to teach students to balance a checkbook first |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #437 |
445. That is what kids learn in PRIMARY school |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #445 |
450. Uh, ever watch a kid try to figure out change without a register? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #450 |
453. They teach addition and subtraction right? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #453 |
477. They are taught to pass tests thanks to No Child Left behind.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #477 |
481. True story BEFORE no child |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #481 |
489. I taught my beautiful Daughter SEE the numbers and you will be fine |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #450 |
482. One teenage cashier I had could not do $63.74 + $20.00 = $83.74 |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #482 |
516. $10.55 and give the cashier $21.00 and watch their hair catch fire. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #437 |
447. We were taught the checkbook thing in 5th grade |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
449. I'm betting that the vast majority of responders... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #449 |
456. I was horrid at it in school |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #449 |
497. Each of them seems to be an unparalleled mathematics whiz |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
460. LOL. in india we learn algebra in 7th grade. its not that difficult |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #460 |
462. Yeah, I learned it in 8th or 9th grade. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #460 |
471. So is Mexico |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #471 |
521. I volunteered as an ESL tutor about 10 years ago |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #521 |
539. only if you think wealth=intelligence. nt |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #539 |
540. I don't. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #540 |
548. i hardly said it was model. what i said is that we did algebra in 7th grade |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #548 |
552. Because the glorious American system takes all comers. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #460 |
484. This Minnesotan learned Algebra in Jr. High, Geometry in 9th and 10th... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #484 |
485. Only reason I stopped at trig is |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #460 |
499. We don't like challenge or discomfort of any kind here. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #460 |
502. It's not a separate argument when the mandates come with no funding. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #502 |
507. Is learning to read and write also a mandate? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #507 |
517. Why don't we just pile more graduation requirements on schools without funding them? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #517 |
557. Algebra is an UNFUNDED MANDATE? What? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
483. Ugh |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
488. This sounds like something a Freeper would ask. We done be smart! nt |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
491. I hate math but managed to get good grades in math in HS even though it felt like torture. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
492. I thought Al Gebra was on the terrorism watch list? |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
496. Got in just under the deadline to give this OP the UnRec it richly deserves. n/t. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
498. Who needs to figure outwhat their mortgage terms mean |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #498 |
501. There was a fantastic thread a few months back |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #501 |
506. Don't know wether to Laugh or Cry. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #501 |
512. Was that the "Durrr! They make you pay the interest first! Hurr!" thread? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #512 |
524. It was. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #501 |
549. Oh I remember that thread |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
522. Well, "Al Jibr" was written by an Iranian (Al Khwarizmi) |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
535. I took Algebra I and II back in high school. I barely passed. My brain |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
543. It doesn't have to be about the math. |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-10 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
550. Algebra??? |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
553. The only reason I passed Algebra in the 9th grade was that I sat next to a smart kid... |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
554. I don't use a lot of shit in my daily life that I took in high school |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
559. In Nursing |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
560. Most. Random. Flame. War. EVAH. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #560 |
563. Amen! to that! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
561. Graduation from high school should require only 9th grade skills. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #561 |
564. Really? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #564 |
568. If I had wanted to say that, I'd have said that. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #568 |
577. Then please |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #561 |
565. If you only have 9th grade skills, you should get a degree from 9th grade |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #565 |
567. Stuff like this goes past acceptance of dumbing-down and into advocacy for it. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #561 |
566. So what, eliminate grades 10-12, since you don't think they should be necessary? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #566 |
569. If I had wanted to say that, I'd have said that. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #569 |
570. Your post is absurd because you think anything close to a junior high education is acceptable |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #570 |
572. I say exactly what I want to say. No more, and no less. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #570 |
579. Deleted message |
leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
571. My familiarity with algebra lets me do my jobs better and faster than the other guys. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
573. algebra is freshman or sophomore year math. it should be required |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
575. Great Odin's beard! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #575 |
576. I'll tell you how this thread happened. It started when the OP posted something mindblowingly wrong |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #575 |
580. It is good to fight against the argument that American education isn't yet inadequate enough. (nt) |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
581. Algebra isn't very difficult |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
590. Dear god, an epic thread on learning an idiotically simple idea. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #590 |
592. I made it a third through the thread without hating humanity. |
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