Reply #34: Opinion in a death spiral [View All]

[jplawne]

Israelis live in Israel for many reasons and it is very ignorant to say they live there because G-d decreed. In fact I have never heard this opinion from an Israeli. The main reason most Israelis live in Israel is because they were born there. I would be interested to hear your opinion why you think Israelis should leave.

Actually Afghanistan attacked the United States. That’s how it works sometimes. You attack someone and they attack back. Fascinating. As for Iran, are you really comfortable that Iran supports terrorism against a sovereign nation that is a member of the UN and is attempting to build a nuclear bomb? Seems you are in a minority because Russian and the Europeans have been apply pressure on Iran to stop enriching uranium

I am sure Micronesia would be happy to know that you value a people that have never had a nation over their ‘trivial’ little country.

I was not aware we are in a death spiral due to our support for Israel. Can you explain? I think it is very legitimate to support a Democracy with whom we share many values against oppressive dictatorships and Islamic-fascist states that have continually attacked Israel and supported terrorism against Israel, the US and Europe. The reason the US is not even-handed is because when Iraq invaded Kuwait and after 9/11, Israel supported the US. The Palestinians cheered Iraq and danced on 9/11. Israel is clearly an ally and friend of the US. Also, America does act out of self-interest AND ethics, and I am proud of our activities in South Africa and the Balkans for example and our recent support of Democracy in Latin America.

144 nations do not ‘stand against’ Israel and the US and we are not butting heads with every other nation on the planet. The UN GA is not some wise moral body. It is one vote per nation, and the many of these nations have dubious human rights records and rarely comments on the crimes of one another. Many nations vote in non-binding resolutions in the General Assembly in bloc as part of the non-aligned movement and to not incur disfavor against Arab oil nations. In no way does it impact the US’s relations with the majority of nations. Most of these nations also have normal relations with Israel and like to export to Israel. You probably should not bass your opinion on Israel on the fact that the GA regularly votes against Israel. They rarely say anything when other nations kill or gas more civilians in one day than Israel has killed in 10 years of conflict. They are something short of a moral, objective body.

Jewish control: first can you provide the reference that Jewish contributions to the Democratic Party make up 50% of total made. Since ~80% of Jews vote Democratic and Republicans raise 1.5x more money than Democrats, then really the majority of money donated is from Christians, so don’t Christians control the US government?

The only thing I understand is that you string together a bunch of unsubstantiated baseless ideas to support your opinion that Zionists control the US policy.