Reply #16: Most everything on this planet ends up bad. [View All]

[K-W]

And that was true before Marx. I wonder why we dont blame liberty, equality, and fraternity for the violence and despotism that resulted from the French revolution? I wonder why we don't blame the ideology of democracy and rights for the failure of the American Revolution to enfranchise anyone who wasnt a white male landowner(not to mention slavery)? Was not the russian revolution and many other revolutions that followed based as much on the idea of democracy as ideas of economic equality?

There are despotic regimes throughout the world who claim to be democratic, does this not prove that democracy as an ideology is bound to fail and thus poses a threat to society?

If a group spends several decades portrayiong themselves as Marxist, becoming a darling of the Left because they fought against US involvement in RW governments in Columbia, they don't suddenly lose that title because now the PR is bad.


It is unfortunate that this is all just a petty rhetorical battle for you. I dont know what titles you are talking about. I am intersted merely in the truth, which is that FARC's marxism exists in rhetoric only and that marxism itself plays little to no role in the actual life and death events in Columbia.

Animal Farm doesnt demonstrate anything about the permutations of Marx. It gives you an interpretation of what happened during the Russian Revolution, which, contrary to cold war propaganda isnt the same thing that happened everywhere in the world revolutionaries read Marx. I also wonder how you could read Animal Farm and come out thinking that the problem was the animals hope for equality.