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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 01:02 PM
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16. A deeper misgiving
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 01:05 PM by PATRICK
I have is yet to see ANY candidate primed for the REAL political and legal war necessary to restore democracy. Instead we have issue parsers thinking they are clever by adopting some pose as the horrendous monsters who have invaded and captured a naive system. While others have worked furiously to deceive and steal the Dems have been ineffective- to put it politely and in massive understatement.

The mere possibility of a new generation of candidates and the grass roots rapid rise is alone heartening, at least unproven in failure. However, two relative mavericks, Clark and Dean have also been sunk when their consciousness was not mired in Foggybottom myth land. The POSSIBILITY exists in people who get it immediately or fast and effectively. Dean MAY be on the right track. Winning is something else and unforeseeable.

But the warhorses of the long retreat from Carter to now are NOT the leaders for today or tomorrow. Nor, as has been demonstrated amply, were they anywheres near up to the crisis of 2000, 2002, 2004. A lot of people and things have died for that failure. And as one would really expect who is a student of human nature and history, they are busy repeating their vices and strangling their virtues and playing childish catchup so they might get back to the good old days when they still were in the game- a game that never existed as they thought it did. The whole Clinton ethos- of getting a peaceful civilized world to gently deal with the looming crises after a rational world wide peace and positive capitalism NWO has been obliterated in the power and money circles. The world populace vaguely longs for it still but let's see what happens as more and more we are divided and set at each other's throats because of the fear and loathing of the ruling elites.

If there are political candidates who will truly overcome the current "game"(Obama's rebuttal of his DLC listing is hopeful)most or all of the big names in DC cannot be among them.

But personal attacks on Hillary? What about all the ineffective institutions and leaders and employees who are mostly enabling the Coup every day rather than facing up to its imminent and unprecedented threat to everyone? The media that finally people see as the blinders on the work horse. The cops and soldiers who shed blood for Bush. the banks, businessmen and world heads of state who cannot cope with the oldest evil so unprofessionally and daringly resurrected by dolts. The thinkers who cannot think, the writers who cannot write, the religious leaders who have lost the compass somewhere in the wilderness. The righteous and rational who can't think of a single way to reach the decent majority.

Hillary bashing is quite useless. The real tragedy is that she really cannot be boosted by any REAL enthusiasm after the Kerry debacle. You have to know that any rallying around her will be grim and hopeless next time around. A lot of that is history not her personal attributes.
I venture to say in the change in stakes and vision that she has about as much chance as Lieberman had in 2004. The candidacy has become that radicalized because the disease is that much deeper spread.

I am sure, like smoking Joe, she will give cause both to fear and ridicule and grow wrathful with her statements, but in the main, barring a sea change that would allow democracy and fair elections for ANY Democrat, her candidacy is DOA. The lights and whistles of excitement you hear are the emergency ambulance taking her to the ward operating on the thrill of memories unrequited and name recognition. Like the "New Coke". This isn't personal, it is the determinism of the death of democracy in America and those co-opted into enabling it.
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