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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 02:39 AM
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My first and LAST Terri thread.
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Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 02:44 AM by mordarlar
I detest this subject. I have posted on it against my better judgment, in other threads, because i am in the minority here and i feel the other side is also worthy of consideration.

It needs to be said that I BELIEVE this should be between the family members and the state courts ONLY. The recent actions of our government have made me incredibly angry.

Since this is such a popular topic, it has been difficult to keep my personal view quiet, as i would normally do. I have watched this case from a distance for some time and some concerning issues remain.

Prior to this becoming such a hot talking point, i had formed the opinion that Michael Schiavo is extremely suspicious but that the court would make it's decisions and that would be that. Terri is not my sister, mother, grandmother or daughter and therefore the outcome of this case was no more my business than the time it would take to read an article.

I recently responded to a post and felt the info there was worthy of at least some consideration here. I realize it is not the popular stance but that has never mattered much to me. I make my mind up based on what I FEEL is right.

Edited to add... it is Michael's intention to have Terri's remains cremated.

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Letter to Hospice regarding Michael's lack of permission to test and treat Terri for a virus (possible pneumonia, mentioned in a later link by the Guardian Ad Litem.)
http://www.hospicepatients.org/hosp-conspires-to-kill-t...

Report of Dr. William M. Hammesfahr who had spent several days examining Terri.
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/Hammesfahrexam.htm

Affidavit of Dr. William M. Hammesfahr regarding Terri's brain scan.
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/Hammesfahr%20Aff%20060101.p...

Deposition of Dr. Hammesfahr re Neck Injury similar to strangulation case
http://www.hospicepatients.org/hammesfahr-depo-neck-inj...

Report of Guardian Ad Litem Richard-Pearse-Jr-12-29-98 re Terri Schiavo. He moves that the petition for removal be denied.
http://www.hospicepatients.org/richard-pearse-jr-12-29-...

Audio of Michael's ex girlfriend.
http://www.hospicepatients.org/girlfriend.mp3


Three of Terri's friends on Greta Van Sustren.
http://www.penraker.com/archives/001370.html
>>>GRETA: Jackie, Did Terri every discuss her relationship with Michael with you?

JACKIE: Um, she was unhappy in her relationship. She was talking to me about moving out, um, she wanted to get an apartment with me. We discussed where we would live, furniture, um because I was married at the time, we were both going to move in together, and just start over.

GRETA: Did she express what was the unhappiness in her marriage to you?

JACKIE: Michael was very controlling. She was not allowed to go anywhere after work, she had to go straight home after work. He would monitor the mileage on her car, and on the weekends went we went anywhere, he would want to know where we were going and I would be the one that would drive all the time. Not that that was a issue, but , um, he would always find some excuse for him to have the car.

And

GRETA: We are joined by Terri’s friends - Jackie Rhodes, Diane Meyer and Joe Shannon. Diane before we went to break I asked you about the marriage between Michael and Terri. Can you describe it for me, specific incidents?

DIANE: Well, I think Jackie brought up a good point when she said that Michael was controlling. I can tell you this, that was pervasive at the beginning of their relationship.Michael controlled….

GRETA: What do you mean by controlled?

DIANE: He systematically eliminated anyone from her past that wasn’t a Schiavo. He surrounded her in the Schiavo - I call it “clan” They… she only went out with Schiavos, when she was up here. and systematically, you know, myself, her other friends from childhood from Pickwell, were all cut out of Terri’s life. The way messages that were left for her weren’t received, uh left for her, weren’t received. Uh, and she felt we were not talking to her. And he could shoot her a look, and she would shutup.

GRETA: Jackie, any suggestion that the relationship every got physical between, in a physical abuse way, between Michael and Terri

JACKIE: I did notice bruises on her upper arms and upper legs. But I just contributed those to maybe running into a desk at work, or maybe she was extra sensitive, but now, hindsight tells me that I did see them quite frequently, and that they may have been more than just a bump into the desk.

GRETA: Alright, you didn’t see anything, no black eye, or anything like that, no facial bruises, correct?

JACKIE: No, they were mostly bruises where normally they would be covered up, you know, during the workday. Maybe by a skirt.

GRETA: What kind of, how were they, were these bruises like someone bumped you, or someone grabbed you? I mean is there, obviously you’re guessing but …

JACKIE: They were smaller bruises like maybe someone had grabbed her. Or you know, like squeezed her arm or leg really tight.

And

GRETA: Jackie, I wonder what people are saying about this where you live now?

JACKIE: I get calls all day long because I’ve made it clear that I was friends with her, and you know, not all the media has told the whole story, and I’ve been sure to tell them that you know, Michael and Terri were talking about divorcing at the time, um. She was not happy in her marriage, and she wanted out, and I don’t feel it should be Michael’s decision to have the feeding tube removed. I think he should give up her right, his guardian rights, to her parents.

GRETA: Diane, did you ever hear Terri mention whether she wanted to be on prolonged care of any kind?

DIANE: We had a discussion, which I testified to in the trial in the year 2000. About Karen Anne Quinlan. In which Terri made it VERY clear to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that she did not approve of removing Karen Anne Quinlan from the life support. Her quote was exactly “Where there’s life, there’s hope” THAT’s Terri. That’s what people need to know. There’s only three people in the world who have heard her say anything different. And they’re all named Schiavo. All her friends and family will resoundingly tell you, that is not her character, to say that she would not want to be on life support, and to put her family through this.

GRETA: Alright, Jackie, Diane, Joe, thank you all. <<<

Rense article
http://www.rense.com/general43/replyto.htm

Afidavit of one of Terri's caretakers
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/cjohnsonaff.pdf

Affidavit of T Capone. Former nursing staff and supposed one-time friend of Michael.
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/AffidavitTCapone050901.pdf

Affidavit of H Law Former Caregiver
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/hlawaffidavit.htm

The following statements are from Dr.'s who have not only seen the tapes but have also studied the medical records.

Affidavit of Dr. Fred Webber
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/Affidavit%20Fred%20Webber.h...

Affidavit of Dr. William Russell
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/DrRussellaffidavit.htm

Affidavit of Dr. Richard Neubauer
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/DrNeubauerAffidavit.htm

Affidavit of Dr. Jacob Greene
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/Affidavit%20Jacob%20Green.h...

Affidavit of Dr. Alexander Gimon
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/alexGimonAffidavit082503.ht...
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