Reply #41: It is what it is [View All]

[maha]

"arab terrorists are a 'tool' of the PNAC/BFEE etc.....my point is we shouldn't get too preoccupied looking at tools such as OBL or Saddam or the Taliban or Lee Oswald/jack ruby etc....."

They're the connection, however. It is no help at all to pretend that Arab terrorists didn't commit the crime, because they did. That's one reason it drives me crazy when conspiracy nuts cook up theories that the planes didn't really take down the World Trade Center towers. They did; I was there.

I'm saying we should be looking at how the Arab terrorists are connected to Bush. And the connections are there and documented. A lot of it has even dribbled into mainstream U.S. media, although the whores pretend it isn't there.

"the reg working of law/international law can take care of criminals"

I don't agree, but that's another rant. Sending troops to Iraq is no help, but terrorism isn't the real reason Shrubbie sent troops to Iraq.

"but bushinc appears to have transcended even self interested criminality....they seem to want to destroy truth and faith in government/innocence itself, so they should always be first on list when tactics or strategy are debated."

Don't ignore facts. Don't pretend Arab terrorists didn't commit the crime. You just discredit yourself.

"The story that bush 'ran around in terror' during 911, while it plays well here, is damaging cuz it fortifies a big lie (bush inc is innocent) in terms of what they knew/ didn't know."

Well, I'm sorry, but it's a fact. The boy looked like a craven coward those first couple of days, and the White House had to spin itself silly to put out a story to make him look better. If you're being honest about your theories, you must not ignore facts that don't fit. If the facts don't fit your theories, you need to adjust your theories.

It's most logical given all the facts (not all of which I've brought up here, but I've got more stuff here) to assume that the Bushies knew Osama bin Laden and his crew were about to do something involving hijacked airplanes and willfully let it happen.

However, it is probable they didn't know the magnitude of the plan or the exact details. In an operation like this you don't let the man at the top know the details. You got to give him "plausible deniability" so that the plans can't be traced back to The Man. So the details would have been worked out elsewhere, not in the Oval Office.

"Hopefully, someday geebush will be questioned in a 'watergate' style set of hearing so some idea of what was really going on can be accessed, but until then be skeptical of everything they want you to believe;"

It's just as important to be skeptical of everything YOU want to believe. Don't dismiss facts because they don't fit what you want to believe.

"for example, geebush never used cocaine and it was bush inc itself responsible for the popular idea that he did (see Albion Monitor, follow links....the coke story helped bushinc enormously in '00 election)
bush inc are the worst criminals in US history, bar none!"

There's a lot more to the concaine story that I got from Mark Crispin Miller (The Bush Dyslexicon) but it's a long story and I don't have time to go into it now. In a nutshell, there's evidence he DID use cocaine, but Karl Rove planted misinformation about it to discredit the evidence.

It's complicated; it's diabolical; it's Karl Rove.