Reply #2: Many of us do not subtract from the significant and -- [View All]

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-- human contributions Catholics generally and liberal Catholics especially make to society and to global peace.

At the same time, John Paul II and then-Cardinal Ratzinger as well have in fact tried to force their views on abortion and homosexuality onto others.

If JPII's encyclicals condemned gay and lesbian love, and they certainly did, I would call that hateful. Xenophobic. What does it gain them to condemn entire strata of human beings based on the hateful letters of Saul of Tarsus?

Ratzinger in particular is essentially inquisitorial in his role as "enforcer" of doctrine. He's decidedly un-Christlike.

My gripe is not with the liberal Kerry-Edwards-voting Catholics across the street from me, nor with you.

It's with the popes pulling the levers against innocent people.