Reply #82: And some apoligists don't want to face the truth, no matter what [View All]

[MadHound]

While scolding me for not reading what you wrote(though somehow I managed to answer your post unread:shrug:), my post may have slipped by you.

Clinton could have stood on his hind legs and gone ahead and signed the exec order to allow gays in the military. It is a notion that is called leadership. Truman had this quality when he integrated the military, and that was in the face of much stiffer opposition than Clinton was looking at(the popular opinion on this was running well over half for letting gays in the military, 59% for among men, 75% for amongst women). Truman was actually enacting a policy that the majority of people didn't wish to see happen. Yet he took his case to the people and made it. He stood on principle and showed leadership. Clinton wilted at the 'Pug's first bark, and we wind up with "don't ask, don't tell". So much for leadership.

I don't know how many people you know in the military, but I actually know quite a few. And all across the board the opinion is that "don't ask, don't tell" is the worst piece of compromised horse hockey given to the military since Custer decided to go to Little Bighorn. Gay service men still continue to live in secretive limbo, constantly paranoid of being outed, commanders constantly have to deal with rumor and innuendo. It winds up being more devisive than useful.

And thank you for that nice hinting of racism on my part. Smooth move, considering you don't know who I am, nor apparently what the fuck you're talking about. And since you support NAFTA, I suppose that you also support the horrors that NAFTA and other current globalisation schemes brings. Things like third world sweatshops, the complete crash of the Mexican agriculture sector, child labor, the subversion of the developing world to multinational corporations, the lack of potable drinking water in many third world countries due to the high prices brought about by globalisation, the rank pollution that such companies are poisoning not just Latin America, but countries around the world(guess you haven't been down to the Tex-Mex border lately), well paying blue collar jobs being replaced by shit paying McJobs in this country, the loss of US soveriegnty to a free trade court(check out chapter 11 of NAFTA), the extra tax burdens you and I have to endure, since the multinationals are now legally off shore and don't have to pay, and on and on ad nauseuem. Damn, with Democrats like you, this party doesn't need enemies!

Look, I'm all for a form of globalisation. The world is getting smaller, and more populated. But NAFTA, GATT and other such "free trade" agreements are nothing more than giveaways to large corporations, giving them free reign to rape and pillage, not only in this country, but especially in those developing countries that are most vunerable to exploitation. Rather than concocting trade agreements that bring the whole world down to the level of corporate serfs, instead let us craft one that would raise the rest of the world up to our standard.

Judging by your posts apparently you get your information straight from the DLC and it's media enablers. Instead of that why don't you try reading some Hightower, or Palast, or better yet go pick up Kevin Phillip's Wealth and Democracy. Get an education, then come back and tell me and millions of others worldwide how wonderful NAFTA is.

Clinton was always more talk than action. His lasting positive contributions to this world are very few and far between. For the most part he was a corporate enabler who talked a good game. His one and only concern was to please his corporate masters, so that he could continue to recieve his thirty pieces of silver. All of the rest was a smoke screen to keep fools like you happy and compliant. Congratulations, you make a fine sheep. Baaaa! Baaaa!