Reply #200: Well, it's a lot more difficult for a woman to have sex with [View All]

[Tansy_Gold]

an unwilling man than vice versa.

And we aren't talking about women who want to opt out of their parenting responsibilities. the pregnant woman who doesn't want to be a mother usually opts for an abortion. Or adoption. Or she changes her mind after the birth and raises it. Her point of no return is at the moment of conception. Once she finds out she is pregnant she has to make a decision, and all of them involve responsibility and risk to both herself and the child. It doesn't make any difference if she engaged in informed consensual sex or not: she's pregnant and she has to deal with it.

What some people in this thread seem to be advocating is that men ought to be allowed lots of points of decision regarding their responsibility to the potential child. No one has ever said the women didn't have responsibility, no one ever said they should only engage in responsible sex. (Actually, they should, but often don't have the choice; men rarely don't have that choice.) But there appears to be a contingent here who thinks men, on the other hand, shouldn't be forced into accepting responsibility until, well, until they feel like it. And if even then they decide they don't want to be responsible, well, then they shouldn't be.

I don't agree. I think EVERYONE should engage only in responsible sex, because there are already enough unwanted children on the planet. but when women engage in sex -- responsible or otherwise -- biology places the risk of pregnancy solely on them. culturally and socially and legislatively we are trying to be "fair" by putting some of the responsibility, if only the financial portion of it, on the men from the same point of no return, i.e. conception.

If you don't want children, if you don't want a potential child to be aborted, if you don't want to have the burden of child support, if you don't want to worry that this woman isn't good enough to be the mother of your child, then don't have sex with her.

If you love her, or if you're just so freakin' hot to jump in her pants or your head (pun intended) will explode, then do so with the knowledge that you may have to take considerable responsibility for that moment's pleasure. Nature enforces that responsibility on the woman; surely a real man would be able to handle the responsibility willingly and without whining.

yeah, right.