Reply #28: Real world self defense. [View All]

[Silverhair]

The only moral and legal reason for using lethal force on another human being is that they are doing something so evil that they must be STOPPED INSTANTLY, even if in the process of stopping them you, as an unfortunate by product of stopping them, kill them. STOPPED INSTANTLY means exactly that, STOPPED RIGHT DAMNED NOW, THIS *&%#@^** FRACTION OF A SCEOND!!!!! Not a few seconds from now. That's why it is called, "in the gravest extreme." You use lethal force when ALL other reasonable options have been exhausted. If you are not yet in that gravest extreme then you have NO BUSINESS PULLING THE TRIGGER!!!! (That bullcrap of shooting someone in the leg to "stop" them is both stupid & wrong. A leg shot can be fatal & may not stop someone.)

That pretty much means that you are shooting because you are trying to save your own life or some one elses life, and you are trying to do it RIGHT NOW!!!! When I am trying to save my life I want something that will do the job.

Trying to use a tranqualizer dart has a bunch of problems. The first is that it takes time to be effective. Plenty of time for your assailant to badly injure or kill you. (Most real world defensive gun firings take place inside 7 feet) Criminals almost always try to get surprise on their side so you won't have a lot of time to do anything. No time to prep the tranq gun, or to fumble with gun locks, etc. Also, tranqs are a one shot deal. If you are up against more than one bad guy, you are in trouble. Tranq have little intimidation power. In 99% of self defense uses of a firearms, no shots are fired. The bad guy knows he could die and takes off running. Nothing in the nonlethal stuff has that ability - Nothing.

Also, for reason that I simply don't understand, many liberals are against the ordinary person possessing any self defense capability at all beyond trying to out run the crook. Defensive sprays have been outlawed for private use & carry in some states. Same for "stun guns".

I hope that I never have to actually pull the trigger on someone, but if that ever happens I will be "in the gravest extreme", out of time, and I will need lots of stopping power on my side in a super hurry. My Sig-Sauer .45 (I can still shoot military level expert with it.) loaded with 230 grain Hydra-Shok fired double-tap should save my life, if it ever comes to it.

I have said in other posts and will repeat here. The decision to own a gun, like the decision to drive, is a commitment. You need to become extremely proficient in the use of either one, or you have no business using either one. Proficient also means knowing what really happens in the real world, not an ivory tower theorist world.