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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:26 PM
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231. You are not respecting me if you take
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 09:44 PM by Jamastiene
"If someone honestly believes that prayer is "getting what you want,"

from my post. You are in essence denying me a chance at a life worth living by believing that. How dare you do that. Even medical science has proven that what I was praying for is a necsessity for a person's mental health and physical health. The fact is they proved it when they did a study on infants in incubators. The ones not loved were less healthy and died more often than not.

The Bible DOES SAY ask and you will receive. It IS a LIE. Period. It's not even like I am asking for world peace or to be rich or to become the world's most loved person or something that should be that incredibly hard to accomplish here. All I am asking for is something so basic that to be denied it proves that either there is no god or he is a hatemonger. And I have proven that there are no opportunities for me time and time again. Being fed lines about how I should somehow live my life without respect from even one single person ever is an insult and is humiliating. How can you agree with my humiliation AND AT THE SAME TIME swear up and down that humiliating someone like me isn't what your religion stands for?

You can type a long winded post swearing up and down that your god is all you need, but let's watch you do without a chosen family like I have. Let's watch you have to listen to someone telling you that you should live your life without your basic needs being met when you put out more effort than those around you to get those basic needs met. Try being born into a domineering family that denies you your basic rights and being surrounded by people who gang up on you at every turn with no one on your side for one year, just one and THEN tell me you still believe in a God or that your religion has all the answers and will sustain you right by itself.

The bottom line is that my challenge still stands. My prayer was for something I needed not something I wanted. If you really have the faith you say you have, then why aren't you offering to pray for my NEED to be met? And why are you saying it is something I want and not need without even knowing what it is to begin with? Mighty presumpitve of you, isn't it? It is a fact that the bible says ask and you will receive. You haven't explained to me yet why you omit that part of the bible in your beliefs. What's the matter? You only believe the parts of the bible you want to believe? Is that it? That doesn't make sense to me and never will. The bible as a whole contradicts itself and according to you and your belief system, hating someone like me is the definition of love.

If your religion says that you should bring people to your God, then you have failed in your religion, because you'll never convince me until you show me some results. A person should NOT be denied basic love and I have been when it comes to simply having a family that I choose as opposed to the one I was born into. That is something that the majority get to have by default and takes for granted all the time by being selfish and marrying and divorcing on a whim. And saying the types of things to me about how lucky I am to NOT have a family that they do is pure out and out humiliation.

To be denied even basic human caring and love AND having you people tell me I am wanting that instead of needing that is the worst thing you can ask of me. Even if you did know more about my situation, I already know how you would reason it out in your mind to tell me I can live probably 80 years or more with the kind of verbal and physical abuse and hate I receive on a daily basis not only from my family but most of the people I meet. Your argument is hogwash.

When you offer me respect, you'll get it in return. You haven't offered it once yet. You are wasting your time even trying at this point because you'll never be able to sell me that idea. It's worse than any idea of hell you can describe to tell someone that basic love and caring should be denied me and telling me it's a want and not a need despite medical science proving you wrong already is what turns you into a fundy on this issue in my mind, because in essence, you are agreeing with them on that point.
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