Reply #27: no, not really [View All]

[iverglas]

in post #7 and again in post #18 you state that your assertions are believable even though the studies to support them are based on surveys not actual police reports yet here you disregard others assertions because they are based on surveys and not police reports?

I will assert that the study results to which I referred are believable ... because they are.

I assert that the survey results claiming 3 million "defensive firearm uses" per year in the US are not believable ... because they aren't. On their face, they are utter nonsense.

Even if there actually were 3 million people a year waving firearms around and claiming to have averted a crime thereby, this in no way or shape or form establishes that they needed those firearms in order to avert a crime.

Because IF THEY DID, the obvious conclusion is that there would be millions and millions more people who did NOT have firearms to hand and thus were UNABLE to avert some serious crime being committed against them ... and THERE WEREN'T.

I'm failing to see quite such a big fat flaw in the studies indicating that abused women are intimidated by their abusive partners' possession and/or use of firearms to control them.