Reply #70: I see. So if we're not 'pro-Israeli' we don't defend Israel? [View All]

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In fact most folk no matter what their views are on the issue defend Israel, it's just that some blindly defend everything Israel does no matter what it is, and others feel they can defend Israel's right to exist while criticising Israels policies towards the Occupied Territories....

Also, I've found out that when someone says they support a two-state solution, they might not be meaning that they support an independent state that's not carved up into little bantustan-like areas. They can support a two-state solution while believing that a Palestinian state shouldn't have full sovereignty, its own military, control over its infrastructure, etc. They're not talking about the same sort of statehood that you, hippie, or a few others are talking about. They're talking about a sub-state type thing under Israeli control. Plus over the past few weeks there's been quite a few posters insisting that the Occupied Territories are part of Israel, and I can't really see how people who think that way can support a two-state solution of any kind...

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