Reply #7: This seems to be a prime example... [View All]

[LeftishBrit]

of what 19th century leftists would have called 'Birth, not Worth', This idiot's views are only being given the time of day because he has a famous ancestor and a famous name. Someone not called 'Gandhi' would never have got such rubbish printed, certainly not in a respectable newspaper.


'Well, with your superior weapons and armaments and your attitude towards your neighbors would it not be right to say that you are creating a snake pit? How can anyone live peacefully in such an atmosphere? Would it not be better to befriend those who hate you? Can you not reach out and share your technological advancement with your neighbors and build a relationship?'

Well, possibly. It could apply equally to that other I/P conflict - India/Pakistan - or to very many conflicts in the world.

'Apparently, in the modern world, so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept. You don't befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.'

Well, this may be a good general description of the world - but how on earth are 'Israel and the Jews' the biggest players???? And when anyone refers to "the Jews" - or indeed any ethnic group - in this monolithic way, they show themselves to be idiots, influenced by a nasty agenda.

'Jewish identity in the past has been locked into the holocaust experience -- a German burden that the Jews have not been able to shed. It is a very good example of a community can overplay a historic experience to the point that it begins to repulse friends. The holocaust was the result of the warped mind of an individual who was able to influence his followers into doing something dreadful. But, it seems to me the Jews today not only want the Germans to feel guilty but the whole world must regret what happened to the Jews. The world did feel sorry for the episode but when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on the regret turns into anger.'

Now THAT is a really nasty paragraph. Firstly, Jewish identity is not locked into the Holocaust experience, and it is worth remembering at this point that over half of Israeli Jews are of non-Europaean, mostly Middle Eastern, descent. Secondly, it is inappropriate for one individual or group to *demand* that another individual or group should 'forgive and move on', and worse to essentially *threaten* them for not doing so. I am sure he'd be the first to agree that it would be absolutely disgusting for an Israeli or other non-Indian to write "It seems to me that the Indians today not only want the British to feel guilty, but the whole world must regret the colonial oppression of the Indians. The world did feel sorry for the episode when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on the regret turns to anger." Yet he seems to think it OK to say it of the Jews. (Note: I am not saying that the Israelis and Jews should NOT 'forgive and move on' - and many have done so; merely that it is wrong to threaten them for not doing so.)