Reply #90: it is my choice....no question about it .... [View All]

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hizballa just took over lebanon, in case you missed the news (they have veto power over any govt decision....) and in case you've forgotten they shot thousands of missiles in to israel, after they crossed the border and killed some israelis....they, like hamas have made their goals clear. Are they going for the westbank?....of course.

i agree the occupation is evil....let there be no mistake about it.....(characterized by murders, torture, land theft, mass jailing without charge or trial, siege, humiliation, destruction of families, denial of movement, denial of education, denial of self-determination).

and no its doesnt make me feel comfortable, i always preferred the borders of lebanon, egypt, jordan than being within gaza or the westbank (intifada I made me feel like "darth vader"-which was why i was glad of oslo and the beginning of us getting out....)


unfortunately, we discovered, there are even worse things: characterized by suicide bombers targeting civilians anywhere, any time, from babies to even holocaust survivors, denial of existence, denial of the right to exist, denial of the right to self-determination. and continual attacks be they against jews and or israelis as a constant factor since pre48.

you would have a case if all of this started post 67...but it didnt did it? ....like you said, lets call a "spade a spade".

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once that is done, the discussion can move on as to what both sides can do to remove the very real fear that each side has. Some of that fear will have a very real reason to exist, some may be irrational, but it doesnt make it any less real....

the worst part about gaza from a political point of view?...was that Netanyho and the guys on the right were correct in their prediction of what would happen..... missiles on our cities....

one of the most confusing parts is the Palestinian "all or nothing" policy. What is the "all?" 48 borders, UN partian borders, no jews allowed, 67 borders, 67 borders adjusted?..which?