Reply #48: Planespotters [View All]

[DulceDecorum]

abound in areas such as Chicago which is home to O'Hare.
O'Hare is a major hub of United Airlines.

Those planes have been spotted on NUMEROUS occasions both taking off and landing.
Photographs have been taken.
The damn planes are STILL FLYING.

Incidentally MercutioATC,
that very same FAA database says that the pilots all had FAA certificates.
Yeah sure.
Take the case of Victor Saracini, the pilot of Flight 175.

Saracini was a flight instructor at Louisiana Tech from 1980-82. His widow, Ellen Hildebrand Saracini, said she established the scholarship to commemorate his love of flying.
http://www.tnonline.com/archives/news/2002/08.27/911.html

Victor John Saracini
Med First 4/2001 Must have available glasses for near vision
DOI 2/15/94 ATP multi engine land commercial single engine private single engine
A/A320 A/B747-4 A/B757 A/B767 A/CA-212
DOI 5/20/1992 Flight instructor airplane single multi engine land instrument aeroplane
DOI 4/14/1986 Flight engineer turbojet-powered
DOI 1/30/1984 Ground instructor advanced instrument
DOI 10/22/1983 Mechanic airframe power-plant
http://162.58.35.241/aadatabase/login.asp

From the media and the FAA airman registry database,
we learn that Victor Saracini met his wife Ellen Hildebrande Saracini,
while he was working as a flight instructor at Louisiana Tech from 1980-82
despite the fact that FAA records clearly demonstrate that
he did not get his flight instructors license until 1992,
which is over ten years later.
Saracini first FAA cert is that of a Mechanic airframe power-plant and was issued on 10/22/1983 which is one whole year after he gave up teaching at Louisiana Tech.

Since the OFFICIAL STORY has been established beyond all reasonable doubt
those FAA statements are simply typographical errors
made by the same copy-typist
who screwed up the registrations of 591UA and 612UA.

Just for fun,
I went and ran the crew of Flight 175 (N591UA) through the Social Security Death index.

Robert Fangman.
ROBERT J FANGMAN 02 Feb 1896 30 Dec 1990
ROBERT FANGMAN 29 Jan 1919 Nov 1986
ROBERT B FANGMAN 27 Jan 1915 07 Jun

Amy Jarrett
AMY M JARRETT 20 Jan 1936 15 Jan 1994
AMY F JARRETT 16 Mar 1902 18 Dec 1997
AMY JARRETT 15 Feb 1909 Sep 1975
AMY E JARRETT 07 Feb 1916 25 Jul 1996
AMY N JARRET 03 Oct 1972 11 Sep 2001

Amy King (some entries)
AMY T KING 10 Dec 1907 25 May 2000
AMY E KING 30 Apr 1905 21 Apr 2000
AMY K KING 30 Sep 1914 01 Jun 2000
AMY E KING 29 Jan 1975 07 May 2001
AMY E KING 22 Aug 1983 29 Mar 2003
AMY C KING 09 Jul 1932 24 Mar 2003

Kathryn Laborie
NOTHING FOUND

Alfred Marchand
ALFRED MARCHAND 19 Jun 1897 21 Jul
ALFRED MARCHAND 19 Jun 1905 Jun 1974
ALFRED MARCHAND 21 Jun 1895 Feb 1970
ALFRED E MARCHAND 04 Mar 1918 25 Feb 1995
ALFRED MARCHAND 20 Jan 1912 May 1983
ALFRED F MARCHAND 05 Dec 1908 06 May 1992
ALFRED MARCHAND 12 May 1910 Aug 1970
ALFRED J MARCHAND 18 Mar 1912 27 Dec 2001

Michael Tarrou
MICHAEL J TARROU 27 Jun 1926 23 Mar 1995
MICHAEL B TARROU 15 Aug 1896 01 Jun 1990

Alicia Titus
NOTHING FOUND

So, it would appear that only one crew member, (besides Saracini & Horrocks)
Amy Jarrett,
of Flight 175,
managed to have her death recorded on the Social Security Death Index database.

We really have to do something about those rogue copy-typists....