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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:05 PM
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21. I'll add to Jai's analysis this additional view to further clearify....
because it is elementary. You see, there was this guy by the name of John Kerry who was the hope of the Democratic party in retaking the white house during the most important election in our lifetimes.

Well one day, during the General election campaign, John Kerry said this: "wrong war, wrong time, wrong place". Mind you, a war that Kerry had actually voted to give Bush the power to wage.

Soooooo

Karl Rove, aka, ventriloquist to Dummy BushJr said this in response:
"How can we elect someone to lead us in a war that he doesn't believe can be won, and that we are all wrong?" You see, Rove knew something that Kerry's team obviously didn't understand. Voters don't like leaders who would proclaim us "losers" in mid-stream. So Rove labeled Kerry a pessimist Defeatist.

and then the people voted, and somehow the Dummy won(partially because many voters perceived that Kerry and Democrats in general had losers' mentality).

Many believe that at this point, that the Iraq War, if handled properly, could be interpreted as a victory i.e. although 200 billion, 1500+ dead soldiers, 100,000+ Dead Iraqis later. This means that as Democrats, in order to not sound like defeatists (as people/voters don't really like those kinds of leaders anyway), Democrats must approach this current war to see the good in all of the bad, and at least have a plan in restoring the peace, and withdrawing troups as soon as the US can (under the circumstances).

It's called framing the issue in a positive manner. Not bad, bad, bad, but rather,"here's our Democratic plan for the war, and what we should do" type of attitude.

Clark was talking to Democrats about just that; reframing the War issue in a manner that doesn't leave voters to intepret that Democrats don't want to see this war won. You see, Democrats should want this war won, even though it was waged under false pretenses, handled terribly, cost more lives and money then was ever imagined. Democrats are accused too often of wanting things to turn out badly so that Bush can look bad. A majority of Americans don't want to worse to happen just to prove that point.

Do you get it now?
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