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Connecting Dots. HOly ' LettEROlogy ' BatMan! re; occurences of *Sch*
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Connecting the Dots....just a little harder...when the 'dots' keep...moving and multiplying...rules of the 'game' change...arbitrarily...headlines ..turnover...repeatedly with no resolution....but the sense of a 'dotmaker' .....moving..'dots' - but seeking connection...cuz that is what we do..to heal, Grow...

..in johnny goSch thread, member noticed the 'quaint' occurence of gannon-guckert-goSch
the small g's upside down 6's...and notes for what it is worth the possible appearence of that number and the significance attached to it of some sort..

...so I was going to post this as a comment, as i had already noticed this *Sch* and attempted to expound..somewhat previously

...but decided to post this observation as it's own thread ..as..it REALLY 'patterned UP' during some sleeplessness. thusly....

J.Go~Sch

Sch~iavo

Sch~indler

Sch~ool Shooting

Sch~ism

Put~Sch

Bu~Sch was not the traditional name at one time?

from Merriam-Webster's New World Dictionary of The English Language....,

Schism (siz'm) 1. a split or division in an organized group
or society , as the result of difference of opinion, of doctrine,
etc.;especially, a formal split or division in the
Christian church. 2 the offense of causing OR trYinG to cause
a SpliT or diVisioN in the Church OR in ReliGion. 3 A SECT FORMED BY such A SPLIT OR DIVISION.


A change in the catholic church- with a new Papacy commencing ..forthwith and...

Schism in this identity of this man..sympathy?.. Schism in a Nation, even 'Holarchy' evidence of..Schism in the Species

-a short digression, aside here on holarchy and a good lead into to a couple more random connections..linkage noted- THAT in ' letterology' playfully noted whan havin' 'fun' with words, palindromes also coming....but in this word is 'EROs' & 'Logos' ..Spirit & Science...involved in the definition of religion to link back to the source

This understanding is developed below, after this explanation of Holarchy...
~~~
One of the greatest insights I have gained from Elisabet is her description of holarchy, attributing the elegant word to Arthur Koestler and explaining its meaning as "the embeddedness of natural entities." "Holarchy is nestedness, distinguishing it from pyramidal hierarchy, which implies superiority at the top and is the metaphor for command-and-control systems. You, as a body, are this kind of holarchy -- cells within organs within organ systems within bodies." (If you take in just one item on ratical by Elisabet, read "Living Systems, the Internet and the Human Future".)

Another way of seeing holarchy starts with the individual, which is a holarchy in its own right, as we just saw. This one is individual within family within community within nation within world. You can cut these different ways using ecosystems, using galaxies, whatever. But always there is this embeddedness and interdependence. Seeing holarchically has interesting consequences. Consider evolution theory. Darwin held that evolution proceeds by competition among individuals. Others noticed a lot of altruism within species and came up with a theory that it was really competition among different species for ecological niches that drove evolution. Then Dawkins came along and said, "No, you're both all wrong, it's the individual gene, it's the competition among selfish genes seeking expression to maximize their presence in the gene pool."


Elisabet says they're all right, but only together! When you have selfishness at every level of holarchy, what happens? If each person is looking out for their own interest within, say, a family, how does family integrity happen? There have to be negotiations that recognize family integrity as having its own self-interest at its own level of holarchy. Couplehood is a simple, two-level holarchy where the individuals are not only negotiating with each other, but with their couplehood, that second level of the holarchy. . . . These negotiations must continue as long as couplehood survives. And it goes on as long as life goes on because we are always in some holarchy and this tension, as I said earlier, is the fundamental source of all creativity.
So how do we run a world? Can we run a world without considering the other levels? The World Trade Organization tried doing that. But what happened? The self-interest of people came up and they went to Seattle in droves.

"Ibid."
Following from the fact that "we are always in some holarchy and this tension is the fundamental source of all creativity," Elisabet describes in the Main Features and Principles of Living Systems,<11>

how things always move from unity to diversity, which sets up conflicts, and then eventually there are negotiations leading to co-operation that brings unity at a new, higher level. . . . When you have self-interest expressed at every level of embedded systems, that's when the negotiations must take place. That's when the co-operation starts to happen in a healthy system.

To "grow up" as an individual, to mature in the best sense of that word, means to accept the awesome powers of one's response ability -- the ability to respond with the totality of one's self to whatever life presents one with -- for the consequences of the choices one makes. Initially we learn how to relate first-and-foremost inwardly to our own self. It is on this basis of inner awareness that we learn what it is to relate to other beings external to us as well as to the world we are wholly embedded in, including air, sky, water, stars, wind, earth, trees and plants, sun and moon. Most of us first learn to relate inwardly in a partial manner. Maturity provides the experience of being conscious of this partiality of unlived awareness and thus of finding ways to more fully express one's living wholeness. After reaching physical maturity, one who unconsciously or consciously chooses to ignore this partial basis of first relating inwardly and then outwardly, creates the ground for all forms of tyranny, oppression, prejudice and intolerance to manifest whereby the partial masquerades as the whole.

Obedience to one's greater awareness, and living it out accordingly to the rhythm of the law of time implicit in it, was the only way. Unlived awareness was another characteristic evil of our time, so full of thinkers who did not do and doers who did not think. Lack of awareness and disobedience to such awareness as there was meant that modern man was increasingly a partial, provisional version instead of a whole, committed version of himself. That was where tyranny, oppression, prejudice and intolerance began. Tyranny was partial being; a part of the whole of man masquerading as his full self and suppressing the rest. All started within before it manifested itself without and tyranny began within partial concepts of ourselves and our role in life. Hence the imperative of obedience, obedience to our greatest awareness and the call always to heighten it still.

--Laurens van der Post, A Far Off Place, p.111
Edinger begins the first chapter of The Creation of Consciousness with Jung's observation of the indispensable need to be engaged in creative confrontation with the essential opposites we find in every aspect of life.

The myth of the necessary incarnation of God . . . can be understood as man's creative confrontation with the opposites and their synthesis in the self, the wholeness of his personality. . . . That is the goal . . . which fits man meaningfully into the scheme of creation and at the same time confers meaning upon it.<15>


From same dictionary...,

PutSch
(pooch), n. {G. < Swiis dial.: lit., a push, blow}, an uprising or rebellion, especially an UNsuccessful or minor one. and is this significant because...

"Constitution Restoration Act" (if you are not familiar with the bill, here is the operative paragraph:)

Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an entity of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer or agent of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official or personal capacity), concerning that entity's, officer's, or agent's acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.

-meeting April 7th & 8th , covered by C-span and other vital threads here at DU
*****

Eros & Logos in this Be A U tee Ful Passage:

This is a timely and exciting book. Using religious and alchemical texts, mythology, modern dreams, and the concepts of depth psychology, the author proposes nothing less than a new world-view -- a creative collaboration between the scientific pursuit of knowledge and the religious search for meaning.

"Religion is based on Eros, science on Logos. Religion sought linkage with God, science sought knowledge. The age now dawning seeks linked knowledge.

The first chapter traces the outlines of a "new myth" emerging from the life and work of the Swiss psychiatrist C.G. Jung -- not another religion in competition with all the others, but rather a psychological standpoint from which to understand and verify the essential meaning of every religion.

Chapter two discusses the purpose of human life and what it means to be conscious, "knowing together with an other." In religious terms the "other" is God; psychologically it is the Self, archetype of wholeness and the regulating center of the psyche.

Chapter three examines the implications of Jung's master-work, Answer to Job, in which Jung demonstrates that God needs man in order to become conscious of His dark side. Depth psychology, the "new dispensation," find's man's relation to what has traditionally been called God in the individual's experience of the unconscious.

The final chapter explores Jung's belief that "God's moral quality depends on individuals," which translates psychologically into the pressing need for man to become more conscious of his own dark, destructive side as well as his creative potential.

This is an important book, written in the shadow of ominous global forces. Its basic focus on the quality and meaning of individual human lives reflects an underlying concern for the continuation on earth of any life at all

The anchor of this ratitor's corner is the book's first chapter (below), included to convey something of the growing understanding for the need in human society of a new central living myth, grounded in the creation of more and more consciousness. Such a new myth can serve to resurrect our human family from the apparent ashes and darkness that, on the manifest level, we appear to be evermore attracted to. Instances of human activities are listed in the latter half that signify experiences lived in awareness that augments the sum total of consciousness in the uni verse. Such a fact of the creation of more consciousness provides, as Edinger explains, a tangible "meaning for every experience and gives each individual a role in the on-going world-drama of creation."


With so many American flags being unfurled of late, I return with increased appreciation to the illuminated understanding Krishnamurti precisely articulates regarding where we must go as a species to successfully grow through and beyond our adolescence and embark upon the cosmologically open-ended journey and exploration of what humanity will discover and manifest as a maturing species in the process of expanding human consciousness, individually and then collectively.

When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.

--J. Krishnamurti, Freedom from the Known, pp.51-52
We can ill afford to so continue separating our selves from each other within our single, fragile, utterly mysterious, and indescribably precious human family. The opportunity facing each of us to transform this source of violence is: to expand the consciousness we are carriers of by facing squarely the despised, rejected, or ignored aspects of our selves, individually and collectively, and embrace anew these estranged yet integral parts of our whole selves. Doing so re-integrates aspects of our selves that have been split-off and sacrificed, resulting in such consequences as those we all are too painfully aware of at this moment.



"Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. ... picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-forever."...-George Orwell



any easier to GET OUT from under it ..if it is a high-heel boot instead of a jack-boot ?

Elisabet Sahtouris illuminates much through her understanding of the genius of living systems that design to be self-organizing and self-maintaining and her appreciation of how life on all levels -- from the community within a single living cell outwards to the gaian self we are all cells in and beyond -- is nothing but one big single conversation.

The consciousness Elisabet experiences and expresses speaks to the miraculous dawning awareness, being seen by more and more carriers of consciousness, that in essence each of us is fundamentally a unique aspect of the universe inventing itself -- that as co-creators we manifest the creative edge of God.

As we recognize the universe to be conscious, intelligent, alive, and all of us co-creators, what is our role? Are we not the creative edge of God? We are the universe inventing itself. And that intelligent Cosmos, or God -- whatever you call it; doesn't matter which word you use as long as we agreed that it's alive, intelligent, conscious, and creative -- that is looking through your eyes, working through your hands, walking on your feet. Isn't that exciting? How does the universe get to know itself? Through all of us and what we're doing.

--Elisabet Sahtouris, The Big Picture, Strategies for Transforming
the Global Economy, 1999
As a visionary evolution biologist, Elisabet sees the ever-present possibility for humanity to mature as a species beyond its current, wildly chaotic adolescent period through "the fact that life is resilient and that the greatest catastrophes in our planet's life history have spawned the greatest creativity."<7> "When we humans, after all a very new species, drop our adolescent arrogance of thinking we know it all and read the wisdom in our parent planet's accumulated experience, we too will mature as a species, to our own benefit and that of all other species, as well as the planet itself."<8> "I'm banking on our own rapid creative response to the crises we have created in order to turn the disaster around. The re-growth of Fascism right now is the old system trying to shore itself up against its own collapse and "replacement" by those of us learning to do things differently -- in a more mature and humane way."<9>

Elisabet's appreciation that the greatest catastrophes in the life of our earth has spawned the greatest creativity reflects Joseph Chilton Pearce's insightful perception concerning "Ilya Prigogine's comments that so long as a system is stable, or at an equilibrium, you can't change it, but as it moves toward disequilibrium and falls into chaos then the slightest bit of coherent energy can bring it into a new structure."<10> Her coherent grasp of the limits to what science can "prove" clarify what she sees as "the most profound sea-change in western culture" in the 20th century.

Philosophers of science explained decades ago that science was not in the business of proving truths, that all theories were testable stories, and could only be tested for their usefulness, not for their truth. I thought that was the most profound sea-change in western culture for this century. Bigger than the bomb. Bigger than the Internet. That we knew that no one person and no one culture has a corner on the truth.

The Big Picture
I am especially struck by Elisabet's apprehension of the fact that the basis and purpose of science is to prove a given theory's usefulness.

The usefulness of this missive is unknown but is it sure derned interestin'...

and Oh yeah my customer's name today is Sch~ear, she and her daughter, really seem like best friends are involved in a community theatre production of mary poppin's, I told her it invoked memories of my First trip to the 'Big city' on the Rapid to a stately downtown theatre with my 96-year old NOW, GrandMother .....and it was so enchanting ...when i got...

Back Home ..I tried to fly by jumping off tables with an umbrella...

THANKS GumGum that was our name for him as she always shared 'simple' gifts ..like gum.

What a WonderFul, WonderFul world this could Be.....

s u p e r c a l i f r a g i l i s t i c E X P E A L I D O C I O u s *

*****

~~~

List of Palindromes
Our Top 30 Best Palindrome List:


Don't nod
Dogma: I am God
Never odd or even
Too bad – I hid a boot
Rats live on no evil star
No trace; not one carton
Was it Eliot's toilet I saw?
Murder for a jar of red rum
May a moody baby doom a yam?
Go hang a salami; I'm a lasagna hog!
Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!
A Toyota! Race fast... safe car: a Toyota
Straw? No, too stupid a fad; I put soot on warts
Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?
Doc Note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod
No, it never propagates if I set a gap or prevention
Anne, I vote more cars race Rome to Vienna
Sums are not set as a test on Erasmus
Kay, a red nude, peeped under a yak
Some men interpret nine memos
Campus Motto: Bottoms up, Mac
Go deliver a dare, vile dog!
Madam, in Eden I'm Adam
Oozy rat in a sanitary zoo
Ah, Satan sees Natasha
Lisa Bonet ate no basil
Do geese see God?
God saw I was dog
Dennis sinned

http://www.fun-with-words.com/palin_example.html


The People must have SLACK

bush !
rush !
HusH .

Listen To The SinGing Thrush....
...dreams...of Another World
WHERE THE BIRDS* ALLways SinG
...and Nothing Ever
..Dies (kudos to robert smith of TheCure for the last part)

Laurens points to this above when he distinguishes between events on the manifest and latent levels. In latin `manifest' means literally "what you hold in your hand" while `latent' means "to lie hidden or concealed, to lurk". Thus rather than on the manifest it is on the "latent level where, unrecognised, the real instigators and conspirators against too narrow and rigid a conscious rule above are to be found. There, proud, angry, and undefeated, they move men and women on the manifest level about as puppets in predetermined patterns of their own revengeful seeking."

"The Second Coming":
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.

The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops. again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?<1>




This poem, first published in 1921, is astonishing in the way it succinctly strikes the major themes concerning the current state of the collective psyche. The magic circle of our mandala has broken and meaning has escaped. The falcon ego has lost the link with its creator, releasing primitive levels of the unconscious from control. The ensuing chaos calls forth in compensation the birth of a new central psychic dominant. What will it be? Antichrist? The allusion to the Sphinx suggests that we must once again face the riddle of the Sphinx and ask ourselves most seriously, "What is the meaning of life?"

The People of The Hand...will perServeRe..
Over the people of the fist...
because The Hand can SHARE All UseFul things..
while The FIsT ..
must ConCeal
what it holds


~Peace~Man~







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