Reply #44: You did a great job of summing up the concept in the previous post [View All]

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I don't agree and you are explaining as if I didn't understand.

"Until we find a way to deliver the message clearly and concisely our party will remain exactly where it is right now."

The Repugs don't dominate because they "deliver the message clearly and concisely" -- THEY LIE.

"DUers may understand the truth, but a shocking number of Americans only buy the spin."

Here's where "framers" set themselves up with that distancing that WILL backfire.

"Using "talking points" is merely a way of getting a group on message to advance an idea; IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE A FALSE IDEA."

This rebuttal misses the point and echoes the sameness of framing rhetoric (altho I appreciate you trying to discuss it without defensiveness). It's the DELIVERY that's false, contrived and manipulative (even if well-intentioned).

I did not say this is not a consumer driven society. Please read what I said.

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