Reply #48: Perhaps it stems back to Bill's role with Hastert and the genocide bill going through congress... [View All]

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Of course, many here know that Hillary Clinton is one of Sibel Edmonds' dirty dozen list she issued a couple of years ago before the 2006 election, as standing in the way of whistleblowers coming out on the problems she's seen with Turkish and Israeli groups being a part of the neocon cabal in illegal WMD and drug trading.

Hastert was alleged to have taken many small bribes from Turkish groups as documented by the Vanity Fair article on Sibel Edmonds back in 2006 which she overheard on tapes saying that they had gotten "Denny boy" to stop the genocide bill from going to the House floor by doing so. Donation records corroborate the allegation that he collected a LOT of small and undocumented donations at that time (was far more than any other member of congress).

The excuse that Hastert gave to rationalize his sudden reversal of putting the genocide bill before the House was that Bill Clinton had asked him to do that in interest of diplomatic relations (presumably with Turkey).

Now, if it was these other donations that motivated Hastert to pull the bill from the House and NOT Bill Clinton's letter to that effect, don't you think Bill Clinton would have known that this other "influence" was the real source of that bill not going through congress, and if he genuinely didn't want to see Hastert corrupted in such a fashion, would have taken issue with Hastert's representation that it was Clinton himself that convinced Hastert to keep that resolution off the floor?

One explanation would be that he was totally oblivious to that and didn't follow that bill that closely. Another might be that the Clintons were complicit or at least were knowledgeable about and stood by in this whole bribery mess and what's been going on behind the scenes with the ATC and AIPAC rumored funneling of weapons secrets to countries like Pakistan via Marc Grossman and others in this administration. And Grossman probably was the real criminal in exposing Valerie Plame and her CIA group before Libby and others did. You know it was Clinton that actually hired Grossman to start with! My guess is that might be another reason why the Clintons are on Sibel's shit list, and perhaps also a reason why there's a bipartisan effort in congress to keep her silenced, not just from the Republicans (aka Waxman not doing anything to have her testify before his committee).

Though I have lived in Turkey and like many Turks I know and their food and culture, I recognize that just like we have a lot of deep rooted corruption that's infecting this government like a cancer that needs to be rooted out and put down, that they have some similar problems now as well, that doesn't necessarily reflect on all of the Turks there too, who have come more and more to reject our imperialist actions there and kept the government from supporting the initial invasion of Iraq. It's a very complicated issue, and to try and oversimplify things by just calling them the bad guys on one issue of the "denial of the genocide" is perhaps more damaging to helping get rid of the real problem elements over there towards giving them a true democratic society where Kurds and Armenians can live there without fear of repression.