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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:25 PM
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12. I disagree.
"First, he can largely freeze her out of the administration is she doesn't cooperate. Vice Presidents have very little power."

He could also freeze her out by not giving her any position. He'll still have the junior senator from NY to deal with, but oh well.

"Second, if he doesn't choose a woman, McCain will, and that will steal a lot of the thunder from Obama and the theme of change, and also be very tempting to some women."

I really don't see how that works.

"Third, choosing Clinton pretty much heals the divisions in the Democratic Party, allowing Obama to focus on McCain and making it more difficult for Republicans to play on our divisions."

Nonsense, Clinton's an entirely polarizing figure. The shit she's pulled so far in this campaign only accentuates that.

"Fourth, Clinton connects very well with some key constituencies, including Latinos, gays, Jews, the elderly, and poor whites. "

All of whom will connect with Obama just as well.

"Eight, Clinton is extremely well spoken and effective. That means we'll have two candidates who are better spoken than McCain. "

Now I know you're joking.



"Fifth, she and her husband have a lot of know how in how to deal with the Republican machine. "

Her and her husband have been the Republican machine for the last 3 months. Obama's done just fine.

"Sixth, it gives in access to an organization and fundraising machine that is second to only his own."

She's 20 million in debt.

"Seven, Clinton is better connected than he is to many statewide Democratic parties, which are crucial in get-out-the-vote efforts."

Obama's been running a 50 state strategy. Clinton disparages every state that doesn't vote for her.

"Nine, If Obama's first term is rocky, it's less likely that Clinton will run against him in 2012 if she's VP."

If she wants to run against him in 2012, bring it on.

"Ten, she brings with her a liberal voting record and experience to that will counterbalance charges that Obama isn't experienced enough."

She brings her conservative IWR voting record and contradicts Obama's entire message of change.






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