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Captain Lance Bass Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:31 PM
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27. MORE Insanity from the nuthouse
0bama is the AntiReagan.



4 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:06:13 PM by counterpunch ( Mike Pence for House Minority Leader. Now!)
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To: RobinMasters
The left is desperate for success. They’ll fail like they always do. Their policies don’t work.



5 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:06:43 PM by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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He must mean Ron Jr.



6 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:07:16 PM by Carl LaFong (I'm Sarah Palin)
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Jon Markham is a maroon!



7 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:07:33 PM by austingirl
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Obama is evil and hatred personified.
Come inauguration, he will become the most dangerous man alive.

His hatred for white Americans is strong, and his Stalinism will creep out through the "Fairness Doctrine" and his attempts to disarm the Republic.

Obama is going to start a war right here in America.


8 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:09:41 PM by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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Reagan was a masterful extemporaneous speaker
Obama is a stuttering imbecile without his teleprompter.

Anyone who says that Obama is like Reagan in any way is a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance.


9 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:10:52 PM by Yankee
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Trickle-Down made economic sense and was proved to be true — it created the economic boom that klinton inherited and jacked, which led to what we have now.

“Build up” makes NO economic sense and is just a fig leaf for socialistic wealth transfer, which is the hinge for the vote-purchasing we saw last week.



10 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:11:01 PM by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your power dry, folks)
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PERCEPTION is what the MASSES go for....they (the MSM writers/propagandists) have created the perception that the U.S. is the bad guy, that NOW, Obama will fix....and NOW they are going to TRY and SAY he is Ronald Reagan....we’ll see if THIS works....



11 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:12:11 PM by goodnesswins (CONSERVATIVES....saving America's A** whether you like it or not!)
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LOL! What a buffoon. Obama’s policies are exactly the opposite of Reagan. Reagan had trickle down economics and Obama has trickle up poverty.



12 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:13:50 PM by perfect_rovian_storm (RNC:NEWT OR NOT ONE DAMN DIME!)
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These people are so clueless as to the success of Reagan it’s beyond my comprehension.

Yes, he was a good speaker, but it was his IDEAS that brought this country stability and ended (temporarily) the Cold War.

And this guy is the Money guy? The Money reporter? And he thinks Obama will be like Reagan because he speaks well?

And I have to actually question how this man made President when we have bozos like these giving advice in the lofty position of “journalist”.



13 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:14:32 PM by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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Yeah. And the MSM is the new Josef Goebbels. There shall be no criticizing the New Messiah, since any such criticism would obviously be racist. There clearly cannot be any “merited” criticism, because “earning” or “merit” are obsolete terms, tending to refer to individual traits which only serve to distinugish, hence divide us.

We’re going to hear this kind of utter nonsense for minimally four years. Sigh.



If the Republican party returned to just the center it would require a HARD RIGHT TURN!
LLS


3 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:53:01 PM by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims! I am an UMA-unity my a$$)
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That’s what the “Right” needs, consultation from the Post. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!

We need a message, and to get on it. WWRD?



4 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:54:37 PM by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: nosofar
We screwed up and got punished. Now we have two clear choices, We can listed to NEWT and rebuild a political machine that can win or we can live in the past with our heads in the sand (or other places) and lose.



5 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:58:17 PM by WellyP
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The GOP needs to get rid of homos like Rich Lowry.



6 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:58:17 PM by Perdogg (Gov Sarah Palin - President 2012)
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Sick of wandering in the wilderness?

Jump off a cliff.



7 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:58:33 PM by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Chipmonk Cheeks Lowry can just shut up, for all I’m concerned.



8 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:58:34 PM by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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I had respect for Lowry because of his conservative leanings, but he apparently has gone so far left that a move to the right would make him a moderate.



9 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:59:22 PM by Bushbacker1 (President Bush has let me down! Palin in 2012!)
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“The Right Needs to Get Centered”

Translation: Give up your principles, Conservatives.



10 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:02:04 PM by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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Turning to the left was their demise, they need to become conservative again..Interesting that wapo is giving advice when they barely can printer their newspapers—I hope they go down totally..



11 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:02:43 PM by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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I had respect for Lowry because of his conservative leanings

Lowry could not lean any further toward conservatism than his endorsement of Mitt. So, to him, I am sure that the center looks like the right to him.

12 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:03:07 PM by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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John Boner's 'leadership' in the House played a huge roll in the GOP's defeat on Tuesday.
Since taking over the House GOP Leader position from Tom DeLay on February 3, 2006, Boner has over seen a 20% loss in Republican members in the House. This has been an historic loss in under three years.

Such a dramatic partisan switch has not been seen since the Republican Revolution of 1994, and has not happened to the GOP since the election of 1948.

Consider this. Under Boner's 'leadership' of the past 33 months, Republicans have had a 20% decline in the House. That means that the stock market has actually been a more sound investment than John Boner over the last couple years.

It is absolutely insane that the Republicans would keep John Boner in a leadership position after two back to back historic defeats. We must STOP THE INSANITY! Now!

The American people stopped trusting Republicans, because under the 'leadership' of Boner the GOP has had no ideas, no vision, no principles, no direction, no leadership, and no ethics. Neither the facts nor the perceptions will change so long as John Boner remains House Minority Leader.

Boner has been soft on earmarks, soft on ethics. He opposed the earmark moratorium and refused to call for Ney's resignation. He supported the bailout. He's looked the other way on both ethics and spending, and because of this, Republicans are now lost in the wilderness. The man who lead the GOP into the wilderness is not the man to lead them out.

Everyone must contact their nearest Republican representative and demand they push John Boner aside for Mike Pence!


13 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:03:26 PM by counterpunch ( Mike Pence for House Minority Leader. Now!)
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Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review, the leading conservative magazine, probably, in the world. He ain't David Brooks or Christopher Buckley, who have been "seduced by the world," so to speak. The article makes a lot of sense. We're still fighting yesterday's war. Unless we can adapt conservative principles to the new battlefield, we will continue to lose and the country will slide into European style socialism.

14 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:05:27 PM by Timmy
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Another temptation will be to blame John McCain: He was a maverick and not a conservative, and if only one of the faithful had run, Republicans would have been spared this defeat.
This is a fantasy. It's hard to imagine any Republican running ahead of McCain this year. Besides, even if no one ever mistook him for an emblem of modern conservatism, McCain's campaign nonetheless reflected some of its failings.

Aw shucks, Little Richie is afraid he won't get invited to the parties.


15 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:07:05 PM by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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The problem is much bigger than Boehner. It's primary Bush and the Republican establishment. While I love what Bush has done in a lot of areas (abortion, judges, defense), he's refused to engaged the enemy (the Democrats) and have allowed them and the media to set the terms of the debate. When did he ever defend conservative principles, as Reagan did every time he opened his mouth? And nominating McCain. Perhaps any Republican would have lost this year, with the economy and the media, but at least we could have nominated someone with the stomach to fight Obama and expose his lies during the debates. The House members are casualties of the larger battle at the top.

16 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:10:31 PM by Timmy
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Put a real conservative on the ballot and WIN!



17 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:12:08 PM by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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“conservatism has no clear national political leaders:

It’s difficult to argue with that, at this point.

“The question is how to appeal to the center again.”

Wrong. The question is, when will the Republican party stop trying to appeal to the center, and once again try to appeal to conservatives?



18 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:15:25 PM by ChicagahAl (So your bumper sticker says: "Don't blame me, I didn't vote!"? Duh!)
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This is a fantasy. It's hard to imagine any Republican running ahead of McCain this year.

Never mind the fact that he trailed even the 2nd tier candidates till late in the game. His nomination was the result of being able to outlast the other candidates and then pick up their delegates.

Our primary system is in serious need of an overhaul.

19 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:16:18 PM by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Thank you for those observations. You are 100% correct.
I would add one comment. In 2006 several dozen state legislators across the Midwest, including my home state of ND were not reelected.
Long time conservatives were unexpectly defeated. It appears that left-wing groups were raising money and quietly (and legally) sending it to Democratic candidates.
We learned this several months later-I believe I learned about it on Free Republic. We should have been aware in January, 1997 of the left’s ability to raise money.


20 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:18:58 PM by Maine Mariner
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Tuesday’s election was not a failure of the right, it was a validation of the right. The American people rejected the squishy middle.



21 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:24:13 PM by Natural Law
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I voted for Newt’s “Contract with America” crowd. They got up there and pretty quickly forgot who sent them; got “into” the beltway trance and got derailed. I’m pretty much cynical now after watching the media finagle to get McCain for the GOP nominee, then finagle shamelessly to destroy Governor Palin and brand her shamefully as an inbred Alaskan Ignorant Hick beneath them. We’ll soon get to see how “experienced” and “smart” Obama is, and also how “smart” and “savvy” Gaffer Joe is on foreign policy.



22 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:26:07 PM by Twinkie (REPENT! Look Up! The Lord's Return Is At Hand . . . . .)
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The president the public recoiled from has had the strong support of conservatives...
Thought, what the hey? I might learn something. Stopped at this point.


23 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:27:24 PM by Onelifetogive (I'm gonna drop talk radio in favor of some audio books. Gotta lower my blood pressure.)
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I love all this Monday morning analysis that we have seen seeing in these blogs. Some of it is accurate to a degree. I don't think the American public is smart enough to punish a party for corruption because of some of the scandals. There will be scandals as long as there are politicians.
Here's my take on why McCain lost. I think it's a valid as any of the professionals.
1) Economy is bad. Yes most of the knuckle-draggers out there will blame the economy on the party in power. Or who is in the White House. It's strange that they never seem to take it out on Congress with the possible exception of 1994.
Most people are completely ignorant on economics. They have never studied economics in any manner. The rise in gas prices and the financial meltdown had specific causes that aren't the fault of Bush but the public or a large share of the public blamed it on him.

2) The War in Iraq- yes most of us know that things are much better in Iraq. The “Surge” advocated by McCain and fought against by Obama worked. The fact that Obama was completely wrong didn't impact the voting at all.

3 )McCain was a very weak candidate to begin with. McCain was a candidate because of the stupidity of the Republican Primaries. The way Republicans arranged their primaries allowed McCain to win despite the fact the 2/3 of the Republicans didn't want him. This was a recipe for disaster. NO MORE OPEN PRIMARIES.

4) AGE. McCain was foolish to run at his age. This worked against him with the much younger Obama. As for me I had no problem with his age but I a lot smarter than the average American.

5)MSM wanted Obama to win and did everything in their power to make him look good and McCain bad. We have got to figure out a way to deal with this. It has been a problem for a very long time but now it's so bad that they didn't even try to hide their bias. Oh how I hate the MSM.

6)Stupidity of American Public. Americans have been getting dumber for the past 40 years or more. A fraud and charlatan like Obama could never have been elected until very recently. Let's be honest. The average American is as dumb as a box of rocks. I've confirmed this myself by doing my own little nonscientific surveys.

7)Third World Immigration. The change in the immigration policies sine 1965 has resulted in a massive wave of poor people from around the world coming to the US. These people WILL vote Democratic because it is in their nature to want “goodies” from government. Just because you are fleeing tyranny and oppression or you are looking for a better life doesn't mean that you know what it takes to be a citizen of a democratic republic.


24 posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:28:07 PM by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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The biggest problem as far as Conservatism goes is that there is not much left to conserve.
Our Government is Niagara Falls and we are trying to paddle a canoe up it and shut off the spigot!

Massive opportunities have been blown!

Now there will be a period of suffering.

After suffering will come a need.

Question is how much and in what ways will we suffer? And, what will we need to do?


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