Reply #127: What is your premise? [View All]

[super simian]

Hey, euler! :hi:

BTW did you ever answer the question about why you pretended to know who Cam Kerry is? Not that everybody has to know, my son is a very committed Democrat and didn't know, but he didn't pretend to know, either.

As to whether the bolding bothers a lot of people, I don't know, but you put it very well when you said it was a way to spin these findings (presumably) to promote your own point of view. Another poster down thread also makes the point that you can pick and chose which parts of the findings you want to emphasize to suit your own agenda and that in the end you may have done a disservice to these researchers.

You write: "They started from the premise that, the exit poll does not constitute prima facie evidence for fraud. But, it does not constitute prima facie against fraud either."

And that just about sums it up, doesn't it!

My point is about the premise that you start from, because that’s what you set out to prove, and I get the feeling that you are trying to prove that there was no election fraud. If not, why bring up a study that doesn't prove anything one way or another and then try to spin it so that it "proves" that the exit poll discrepancies are irrelevant?

My premise -- and I think I can speak for a vast majority of the posters on this forum -- is that there is a preponderance of evidence that suggests that the election was rigged to the extent that we now have the wrong president in the WH for 4 more years. But I mean <sarcasm> what's a wrong president now and then, could happen to any country </sarcasm>?

Well this particular wrong president lied this country into a war that is costing tens of thousands of Iraqi and American lives and billions of dollars that we could make much better use of and destroyed an entire country that we had no business destroying. Not only that, but his tragic policies established a climate that condoned torture and broke international laws established at the Geneva Conventions and destroyed any moral authority this county had or may ever have again to bring democracy to the dark corners of the world. He has also set about destroying public education, dismantling the infrastructure of this country, abridging our civil liberties, and attempting to rewrite the Constitution so that it serves the agenda of the neoconservative religious right. In fact, we are closer to fascism than we have ever been as a nation, and may be already there.

So this is a very serious case of oops the wrong president and this is why so many of us are so upset.