Reply #16: Andy's support of Ensign was before Holt's (and Clintons) was released [View All]

[garybeck]

I can't speak for Andy, but I'd guess that he's changed his opinion of the bills, since these others came out, as have the folks at Verified Voting. They used to praise Ensign all the way, now it's Holt they love. Tomorrow I'm guessing they'll endorse Clinton's too.

But it should be noted that Ensign's bill does NOT call for a paper ballot OR a mandatory audit. Unless I"m missing something, it allows for the proliferation of DREs, but only requires that they produce a paper record to be used for recounts and audits, IF there is a recount or audit. That's not enough to bring democracy back to our country.

I think most people will agree that Holt and Clinton are the best now, because they are the only ones that have MMRA (mandatory manual random audits).

they still are not a paper ballot, and the 2% audit worries me.

I think that in addition to the MMRA (hopefully at a higher percentage but i'm starting to doubt we'll get more than 2%, cripes!) it would be great to allow the candidates to hand pick a certain number of precincts, without engaging a full official recount, to be audited. These precincts would not be known or selected until after the first count.

So, if a candidate had concerns or questions about a certain place, they could initiate a small audit without freaking out the public and engaging a full recount. something like what happened in NH I guess.

Just a pipe dream I guess.