Reply #126: It's still garbage [View All]

[Stunster]

as an argument, that is.

Reading it the way you want me to, the logical error now is blatant petitio principii.

You write: because even a god cannot know that there isn't another god in its universe next door, inaccessible to the first god who is claiming this.

This very obviously begs the question against the classical theist!

Classical theism defines God in part by attributing to him the property of being necessarily and genuinely omniscient. So when you say 'even a god cannot know....' you're simply asserting something which the classical theist wouldn't for a minute accept. Classical theism defines God as necessarily existing and necessarily infinite and necessarily conscious. I have expressed this elsewhere as being the idea that God is unlimited self-communicating information (from which by further analysis it would follow, I believe, that God is necessarily conscious and omniscient).

A key idea here is that expressed by prominent philosopher of mind David Chalmers when he says that 'matter is information from the outside and consciousness is information from the inside'.

Now think about what unlimited, or infinite, information must imply.

But I don't have to try to explain how God is omniscient to show why your argument must fail. Upon the hypothesis of theism, God is necessarily omniscient, and you've merely constructed an argument upon the hypothesis that God isn't necessarily omniscient. Big deal.

To make your argument work, you'd have to show why a necessarily omniscient being isn't logically possible. You don't show that merely by asserting that 'even a god cannot know...' That's what you have to prove!

No, chum, an omniscient being can know.....ex hypothesi.
Indeed, an omniscient being would know that that there are no other gods and that he is not himself a creature.

You have to change your argument from assuming that there might be something a god doesn't know (which merely begs the question against the possibility of omniscience), to showing why an infinite consciousness still wouldn't be omniscient, or showing why an infinite mind is impossible.

You've provided no such argument. You've simply begged the question.