Reply #191: In that case, you're just rejecting reason. [View All]

[eallen]

If someone proves something about spheres, you cannot legitimately object, "But I'm talking about only red spheres. You're proof doesn't restrict itself to spheres that are red." And if the proof is that a sphere's surface varies with the square of its radius, and you're belief is in red spheres whose surface varies with the cube of their radius, it's simply silly to object, "no, no, you're talking about something completely different."

The problem is that you're not going to allow any logical objection to the theist's classical god, because in your view, that is "the ground of reason and value." Which means you have rejected reason in any more prosaic sense. Which usually is where a discussion of faith vs. reason ends.

Bye.