Reply #19: Evil propositions [View All]

[PATRICK]

Yes, I am making the issue the gaming of the process. It is California which especially made famous the "moral revolt" wedge by getting people to think they could make a direct vote on "no taxes!". Since they they dumped a governor in a recall and put up other such propositions, sometimes liberals who always went up against big money that could blow their propositions easily out of the water or scrap them like the forced electric cars.

In perspective these "movement and morality" propositions don't get anywhere. The long trail of tears for the ERA fizzle was probably the most successful national movement. Political capital rose and sank in that battle while the diabolical clock simply ran out

So what was Proposition 8 crafted for? It was clearly part of the early program to game California toward the GOP by splitting our base and uniting theirs. They had tried to game "electoral reform" with the help of zealous, dumb Dems to divide the state's electoral votes "proportionally" but the illusion collapsed when they couldn't stop cheating to get more than their fair share. They tried to put in more cheat machines but the size of the state was not ideal for hiding the multi-abuses and dangers of the damned things. Etc.

In the debris of victory this should REMIND us, as with the stubborn GOP efforts of the fraud apparatus to salvage seats, that the efforts, though swamped, were there and worked as intended but with little national result at all.

Apparently many here insist on making sure that they continue to work as intended as to encourage more GOP or other abuses in the crafting of election bending propositions in their future revival. Short cuts like having the SCOTUS or a proposition do an end run around a failed legislature may be satisfying or dramatic in the short run, but the democratic sounding ballot proposition problem will persist. Any ballot controversy that sends DU morphing into muddled crankiness ruins this forum from its next possible step into the framing the REAL legislation of OUR new Congress. Are we going to be fault finding spectators lining up for our introverted firing squads or are we now going to take some responsibility engaging in what we fought for?

As with the virulent Hillary/Obama splits this too should probably pass and maybe we are wasting too much time in the sucker breast beating and blame threats in re-enacting a failed play, "Dem Loser" Act II that does not exist this year by an overwhelming mandate.

Victory seems to imply what it is not. People were still fooled, suckered, led by their issue noses into self contradictions and the dangerous sucker swamp. The MSM is STILL doing it to everyone, including us, happily using the one, miserable dirty success(empty of its purpose to help elect McCain) they could pick out of the garbage of their dark dreams.

As for the temporary limited success of these anti-gay propositions, yes, they will go down to defeat in history too, and we can be damn sure there is no picture book perfection of American moral judgment
to highlight it. It is a disgrace like Jim Crow, slavery, jingoism, libertarian anti-government lunacy.

And you know what? Ignore the whimpering pleas for this small victory over the American people and their best ideals from the discredited corporate media, because nationwide the whole ball of evil is melting down- if we do not get distracted or discouraged by GOP phony "successes".

There are discussions that be had on issues and engagements with the sometimes ugly spread of popular opinions. Yet on controversies such as this remember the source and purpose HAS been defeated. This empty shell of shame merely reminds us of our wounded nature, which is one political constant we must never forget.