Reply #87: The Reality of Independants [View All]

[Baby Snooks]

I truly think people need to accept that in some races, the only hope will be an Independent. Cindy Sheehan is one reason why.

It would have been better had she challenged Nancy Pelosi as a Democrat. But would the Democratic leadership in that district stayed neutral? Of course not. Democrats and Republicans are not themselves necessarily corrupt. But the parties are. That is a reality.

I cannot think of any reason to support Nancy Pelosi at this point. Can Skinner or any of the moderators offer a reason other than she's a Democrat? She's not a Democrat. A Democrat does not revel in the ability to have homeless people arrested. Not too many Republicans do either to be honest. But the Republicrats do. The serve the agenda of oligarchy rather than democracy. Regardless of their "official" party affiliation.

How about just not promoting some Democrats when they have made it quite clear they really don't represent Democrats?

Party loyalty ruined the Republican Party by allowing it to be hijacked. The same will happen with the Democratic Party if the "you are not really a Democrat if you don't vote for the Democrat" mandate continues.

No one should be on DU promoting Cindy Sheehan. By the same token, no one should be on DU promoting Nancy Pelosi. Everyone knows Cindy Sheehan is running. Let the voters in the district decide for themselves. And in a way for the rest of us. She is not just another representative from California. She is Speaker of the House. Telling them they HAVE to vote for Pelosi is not allowing them to decide for themselves.

Reality is Democrats are not the mindless voters that Republicans are. I don't know about other states the way I know about Texas but in Texas many Democrats who refuse to be told who to vote for simply don't vote at all. And that of course is how we ended up with George W Bush to begin with. And with Rick Perry. Anyone who says nothing could be worse than George W Bush obviously doesn't live in Texas or spend much time here. Rick Perry asolutely is worse than George W Bush. He's a former Democrat who became a Republican simply because he knew being a Republican ensured he would win. Even with just 39% of the vote in 2006, he still won. He took the worst of the Texas Democratic Party with him. Good riddance. Unfortunately some who remained in the Texas Democratic Party need to join him. And that probably is true in other states. The Republicans however are fed up. And so some of the "Republican" politicians may go back to the Democratic Party. And no doubt be welcomed back by some. Fools, it seems, never do learn.

If I were in San Franciso and voting in the district, I would not be using DU to convince others to join me in voting for Cindy Sheehan. I would be out on the streets. Hoping Nancy Pelosi didn't call the cops and tell them I was a homeless person and needed to be arrested.

Which I suspect she will do. She threatened to do it to the Pink Ladies. Apparently they dress too well to pass as homeless people or she would probably would have had them arrested.

I suspect Cindy Sheehan will prove to be the battle royale on DU more than anyone else. A local race that nonetheless will determine the future of this country. We don't need an Empress who serves the Emperor as the Speaker of the House.

Not to be hateful but no one thought anyone could be worse than Tom De Lay. Until Nancy Pelosi became Speaker of the House. Her first piece of legislation was the minimum wage bill. That she conveniently had an exclusion inserted in for the sole purpose of excluding one of her major supporters. Starkist Tuna. That was really the point she should have been tossed. Along with Starkist Tuna. And it has gone downhill from there.

The conservatives hate George W Bush. To the point that at this point Tom De Lay probably would have filed the bill for impeachment himself.

That in itself is quite scary when you realize that Nancy Pelosi made it clear, after the elections in 2006, that impeachment was off the table.

Nothing wrong with party loyalty. As long as the candidate is loyal to the party.