Reply #40: too many notes, too many words, what are you trying to say? [View All]

[pitohui]

there is no evidence whatsoever that we live in a decaying society and much evidence that we live in a developing (technologically) and/or mature society (if you think we're near the end of improvements we can create, which seems a doubtful thesis to me)

true, in 1950 there wouldn't be many folk who could afford to buy, learn to fly, and then drive a private airplane into a gov't bldg, but that is not evidence that SOCIETY is decaying, it's evidence that a mentally ill spoiled brat didn't appreciate his rich opportunities in this life

truly...what society is not a violent society? who among us alive in the 50s and 60s DIDN'T experience violence then?

you're assuming facts not in evidence when you claim that we are, today, "decaying" -- we have far to go, but for cripe's sake, we have a black president, we have a female secretary of state, we have computers in our freaking telephones just like dick tracy...we are not "decaying" -- we are still growing and moving forward

in my lifetime, in living memory for not just old people but late middle aged people too, violence was for the most part accepted and every little act of violence didn't appear on the news, for instance, rapes and esp. incest would be almost always covered up, wife-beating and child-beating would be almost always repeat acts thru the wife's/child life that would be covered up

there is nothing special about 2010, we are not any more violent than any other time and probably less violent than many periods of time if you ask me -- as terrible as the wars in iraq and afghanistan may be, they are beggared in size and body count by world war 2 and many other previous wars

our society badly needs improvements, but to claim that it's decaying is just ridiculous on the face of it

the word "decay" has a meaning

we are not improving as fast as we could and we should, but that doesn't mean we're a rotting corpse breeding violent maggots

as for the rest of your post, everybody on this planet and probably for several solar systems around knows by now that the LEGAL definition of mentally ill is different from the MEDICAL definition of mentally ill, but if you don't think violent nutcases are mentally ill then bless your heart, you must be a lawyer...in a country w. 300 million people, some of them will be sick people, and some of them will get their hands on guns, planes, gasoline, what have you, it comes w. the size of the population, even if there is less percentage of the ill there are larger numbers because we've allowed our population to grow so large -- it's possible to recognize that most if not all violent people have something wrong with them without excusing their actions or setting them loose to run free, you know