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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:17 AM
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UK rejects Iraq civilian death estimate
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 06:40 AM by JI7
on edit, i want to include a note that the 100 thousand civilians dead figure was from a scientific study done by Columbia University and Johns Hopkins University. so you know the sources are well respected and credible.


<Britain has rejected an estimate by US researchers that about 100,000 Iraqi civilians may have died as a result of the war, agreeing with an Iraqi Government figure of a much smaller body count.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the estimate, in a report published late last month by British medical journal The Lancet, was based on imprecise data.

London supports an estimate from Iraq's Ministry of Health that 3,853 civilians were killed and 15,517 injured between April and October this year, Mr Straw said in a statement.

Those figures may include insurgents.

"While recognising the bravery and professionalism of those conducting the Lancet study, the Government does not accept its central conclusion, and continues to believe the most reliable figures for casualties in Iraq are those provided by Iraqi hospitals to the Iraqi Ministry of Health," Mr Straw said.>

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200411/s1246622.htm


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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:31 AM
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1. So how did the U.S. get the 100,000 figure?
This is the kind of revisionist crap that justifies this war. It is well known that in Fallujah, there were NO operating hospitals during the fighting. There would be no way of counting casulties that came to the hospitals. This needs to be debunked.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:32 AM
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2. BS....
the 'coalition' does not do civilian body counts so how the fuck would he know? All of these warmongering neocons should rot in hell.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:36 AM
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3. Even London's "approved" estimates are wildly wrong.
This site uses a conservative methodology based on news stories, and their range is 14429-16579. They have a database of sources online as well....

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:10 AM
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6. yeah
i was thinking even if they don't believe the 100 thousand figure it's hard to believe it could be just under 4 thousand as straw claims.
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:37 AM
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4. www.iraqbodycount.com
didn't they try to keep up with the numbers? And they're at about 15,000 deaths so far (without Falluja I assume)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:03 AM
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5. blair and company have to
they don't have a choice.
next, they can deny the holocaust -- and the american media will spread the glorious news.
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