WP: Kerry Team Seeks to Join Fight To Get Ohio County to Recount

[wheresthemind]

Sen. John F. Kerry's presidential campaign asked an Ohio judge yesterday to allow it to join a legal fight there over whether election officials in one county may sit out the state's impending recount.

A pair of third-party presidential candidates, who said that reports of problems at the polls on Election Day are not being addressed, are forcing the Buckeye State to recount its entire presidential vote. But David A. Yost, a lawyer for Delaware County, just outside Columbus, won a temporary restraining order last week blocking any recount there. He told the Columbus Dispatch that a second count would be a poor use of county resources. President Bush won the mostly Republican area handily, unofficial results show.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23344-2004Nov30.html

Nice of the mainstream media to show up this time...

[berner59]

1. page 8 of the Post...

We're getting somewhere now...how soon until it's on page one?? Is this the "Dec surprise" which was talked of shortly after the election??

[wheresthemind]

2. We're moving up...

one day its no coverage, now its page 8!

I think the media wants to be VERY VERY cautious.

[Why Syzygy]

5. what?

what pages are you talking about?

Novice.

p.s. give me ANYTHING to get out of this gwb-ism.. ANYTHING!

[4democracy]

7. This article is on page A08 of the Washington Post, click on link

[dweller]

3. that is a very carefully parsed

blurb.

note the wording.

dp

[Liberty Belle]

4. Yeeeeeee-ha!

Hang on to that saddlehorn, Bushie Boy. Something tells me you're in for a rough ride!

[4democracy]

6. Finally, they are getting off the sidelines and in the game

Lets just hope its not too little, too late.

[Gloria]

11. Don't you think they've been in the game all along? Flying

under the radar as long as possible to avoid the mandatory freak out/crucifixtion if they had been public immediately after the election...??

[rocktivity]

33. Ding ding ding! Gloria, you're our grand prize winner!

Does everybody honestly think that Kerry has been in a coma all this time? He knew that any immediate action he took would come across as inventing the controversy in order to save HIS ass. Now that some legitimate issues have been raised WITHOUT the apparent help of the Kerry campaign, he can act as more of a "friend of the court" than as a disgruntled, vengeful sore loser.

:headbang:
rocknation

[troubleinwinter]

8. Wait a minute...

"Wednesday, December 1, 2004; Page A08


Sen. John F. Kerry's presidential campaign asked an Ohio judge yesterday to allow it to join a legal fight there over whether election officials in one county may sit out the state's impending recount."


Isn't this new? Huh? Kerry's campaign wants to join the fight?? New to me!

[Chango]

9. Anybody still having a problem with Kerry holding back some money?

Hmmmm.....

[hickman1937]

10. His "campaign" is joining a very specific part

of the fight. Kerry is a past master at digging till it hurts. I don't think he is ready to engage the enemy yet. He's sending in advisors(with small arms) first.

[Octafish]

12. COUNT THE ENTIRE STATE.

Remember Florida, when President Gore's team failed to ask for the total state recount? They missed all the overvotes that would've gone for Gore etc etc etc.

Apart from a paper-ballot re-vote, about the only way left is to count the entire state. That way we catch ALL the cheating, from Toledo to Geneva to Athens to Cincinnati.

What's to lose? Bush? Ha ha ha. That's the idea.



satan's monkey: a lower caste

[frank frankly]

13. octafish, our environment, the animals, planet can't take 4 more years

we need JK to do something.

i can't let myself have too much hope, but after seeing the West this summer...we need an environmentalist ASAP.

do you really think there's a chance?

[Octafish]

14. Hey, Frank!

"There's always a way." -- Jeeves

The thing is, the BFEE is so freaking powerful (read "rich"), they seem to have bought their way into the White House.

Consider everyone you know in the red states and ask, "How was it that there seemed to be so much movement toward Kerry, yet the vote totals did not reflect the bumper stickers, lawn signs, people-to-people conversations?"

The only way it makes sense is if there were massive vote fraud. Lookee what Wayne Madsen, a REAL JOURNALIST, reported Tuesday:

More On Vote Rigging With
Saudi/Enron Funds

By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal
11-30-4
 
Additional information on the buying of vote riggers with Saudi and former Enron funds has been obtained. The epicenter for the vote rigging operation is Dallas, Texas, and the operation may involve retired FBI agents who used a well-established "good ole boy" network to arrange for access to polling precincts by electronic voting machine technicians who took advantage of various November 2 security "lockdowns" to illegally alter the tabulation of votes in favor of Bush. Some of the retired agents may have used courtesy credentials issued upon retirement to fool unsuspecting polling place workers.
 
The cost of the operation was estimated at $29 million with the money sent via a circuitous network of offshore trust companies and shell activities. This reporter has obtained a copy of a bank check for $29,600,000 that was allegedly sent to cover the cost of the Texas-based vote rigging operation. The check is dated October 22, 2004, and was made payable to "Five Star Investment Ltd.," a trust said to have long connections to Saudi-funded operations in Texas and around the world. The payer is identified as "Equity Financial Trust," a Houston-based "brass plate" and post office box entity tied to offshore Cook Islands "folding tent" accounts used to hide away profits amassed by the former Enron as well as Saudi financiers.
 
On October 6, 2004, some two weeks before Equity Financial Trust transferred the money to Five Star Investment Ltd., the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions for Canada listed Equity Financial Trust, along with Bankers Financial and Security Trust, Falcon Financial and Trust, and Unity Virtual Trust Group as "unauthorized financial institutions." In fact, the check for $29.6 million, which is marked "Not to exceed fifty million dollars," is drawn on the Laurentian Bank of Canada's Toronto branch. Its serial number is 317675450 3 and the bank number is 23-97/1020. The bank instrument is issued by Integrated Payment Systems, Inc. of Englewood, Colorado, and Bank One, NA, Denver, Colorado.
 
It is noteworthy that a number of companies operated by past Bush campaign contributor Pierre Falcone, under criminal investigation in France for weapons smuggling in Angola, are called "Falcon." Several non-governmental organizations, including Global Witness, have tied Falcone to questionable Halliburton activities when Vice President Dick Cheney headed the firm.

CONTINUED...

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112604Madsen/112604madsen.html

Gee. If we have the Corporate McPravda against us... Wall Street ... the Mafia...NAZIs... the KKK... the Saudi ROils... the MI-Complex... that spells the Octopus.

The only thing we have going for us is the Truth. THAT's how we will win, my Friend. America will wake up.


 

[frank frankly]

16. I hope there becomes some sort of public movement

i would march, wear a button, sit in the streets...anything.

i hope you are right about america.

keep on, octafish...you're the best!

[Octafish]

38. Bro... Maybe we all wear BLUE ARMBANDS.

Correct me if I'm Republican, but I certainly can't believe that satan's monkey got 10 million more votes than the first time he stole a presidency. If anything, he's made 20 million more enemies with his asinineministration.

Let's propose a visible sign that everyone can acknowledge. If everybody started wearing a blue armband, we'd pretty soon see how many of US there really are. We might be surprised to discover that almost the entire nation are DEMs.

Then, should the little turd from Crawford actually escape justice and get inaugurated by the racist Rehnquist, we could all turn out with blue armbands to show him - and the world - for what he really is, a fraud.

PS: Thanks, frank frankly! Same goes for you!

[Helga Scow Stern]

17. I agree: The only thing we have going for us is the Truth.

"The only thing we have going for us is the Truth. THAT's how we will win, my Friend. America will wake up."
Couldn't have said it better....

[Octafish]

39. What Gandhi said...

"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS."

PS: Thanks Ojai Person! "Through unity comes strength," Aesop wrote.

[Why Syzygy]

22. ummmmm

ya think? This looks dirty. Very very dirty. How can 'merica' defend?

I do hope you are correct. I'm not that hopeful. We'll go for it though. Nothing else to do.

[Octafish]

40. Dirty isn't the word for it.

Remember what Kerry said after a TV interview?

He said the Bush administration was the "biggest bunch of crooks and liars" he'd "ever seen." He's absolutely correct.

Let's not give up the ship. I certainly won't abandon it to the pirate idiot Cheney and his barely house-trained minkey.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, votesomemore! Like the handle. Are you from Chicago?

[locutus]

28. Tell Like it is OCTAFISH!!!

I had the honor to attend a Kerry rally the night after he stole Dub-yuh in front of sixty million people in that first debate. I can't tell you how excited I (and the hoards) of other Democrats were the next day. The main thing that hit home to me that day was the voting method (something were not proud of here in Florida). These voting machines had NO PAPER TRAIL! How the hell do you do a recount! I can't see Florida going blue with Jeb as Governor and an electronic voting sytem that's unaccountable. It's hard to believe that this happens in America...

[Octafish]

41. Hey, locutus!

That was some night! Kerry DESTROYED satan's monkey. "Big time," as Sneer would say.

Regarding our problem with the paperless voting machines. There are several DUers, including Bev Harris, who've done a mountain of work on getting the word out and doing something about them.

Canada uses paper ballots that get counted by hand at each polling place. When the numbers are tabulated, they're phoned in to a central office. Then all the numbers get added up. All along the way, people from all parties watch and confirm that it's all legit. That's how a Democracy is supposed to work.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, locutus! Dig the name!

[shance]

36. Frank you are right.

You cut to the core of what we are dealing with.

[Chelsea Patriot]

15. This is So Amazing To Watch!

I bet it's going to get really wild, really quick!

[sd_UDO]

23. How to turn Ohio 100% Blue!

Paper ballots--vote count videotaped--post all ballots on web for examination. You can make it happen! (Impeach the voting machine companies!) Let's inaugurate Democrats in OH, FL, AZ, SD and all states, and have our OWN elections every 2 months!



My message is--elect Democrats every 2 months---

Here's how we can paint South Dakota Ultra-Blue! This will work for
any state in the USA--do this in your state- start an UDO group!

After the election, I decided to change things. I decided we needed to have our own elections-- 6 times a year!

Check out UDO!

Wanna OutBLUE people in a Red County? Check out my Yahoo Group--

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sd_democrats_UDO /

Let's start a state wide UDO (Ultra Democratic organization)--

first elections December 2004!

(Anyone can join the Yahoo group)

Thanks!

[Amy6627]

37. What is UDO?

I just signed up at the Yahoo group, but can you tell me more about what you are trying to accomplish, etc. or where I can find out myself?

Thanks, Amy

[lovuian]

18. welcome Democrats to the fun!!!

Whoo Hoo!!!

[frank frankly]

19. happy kick

it's good to officially hear from JK again!

[njdemocrat106]

20. Hey Dubya, your number's up!

I always believed John Kerry would never let us, the "real" Americans, down.

For old time's sake: LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!

[Kenergy]

21. Yes, COUNT THE ENTIRE STATE! n/t

[Timebound]

24. Why would we want a recount?

Why, that'd just kick Bush and co. OUT of office.

Wouldn't want that, now would we, Katherine Blackwell? :D

[leftchick]

25. kick!

:kick:

[wheresthemind]

26. morning kick

[dubyaD40web]

27. Super KICK

[Demrock6]

30. But remember Keiths blog

Didn't at one point we hear this already? Keith said something on the like Kerry/Edward to join recount, then it was recanted a few hours latter. I don't know the specifics, but I also don't want to seem a downer. I couldn't find anything about this on the net MSM.

I hope this is true. I say if Kerry can find fraud let pull a Ukraine type protest. You can tell they love democracy, perhaps more then us.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

29. Kick...

...eom

[cincinnati_liberal]

31. You Can Be A Pain In The Ass In Ohio

I posted it yesterday, and here it is again. Call these idiots and tell them to report the REAL news in Ohio. They haven't reported the Warren County fake terrorist threat where they counted the votes behind a locked dooor. They haven't talked about the almost 100,000 impossible votes in Cuyahoga County. And they sure didn't talk about Bush getting 4,000 votes from Gahanna, a liberal Columbus suburb, where only 600+ people voted. Lock up their phone lines and make their life hell.

Ohio Newspapers

Columbus Dispatch
34 S 3rd St,
Columbus, OH 43215
[phone]

Cincinnati Enquirer
312 Elm St # 19,
Cincinnati, OH 45202
[phone]

Cleveland Plain Dealer
1801 Superior Ave E,
Cleveland, OH 44114
[phone]

Columbus TV

WBNS-10 TV
770 Twin Rivers Dr,
Columbus, OH 43215
[phone]

WCMH-TV NBC 4
3165 Olentangy River Rd,
Columbus, OH 43202
[phone]

WSYX-TV ABC-6 SINCLAIR
1261 Dublin Rd,
Columbus, OH 43215
[phone]

Cincinnati TV

WKRC
1906 Highland Ave,
Cincinnati, OH 45219
[phone]

WCPO
1320 Gilbert Ave,
Cincinnati, OH 45202
[phone]

WLWT
1700 Young St,
Cincinnati, OH 45202
[phone]

Cleveland TV

WEWS
3001 Euclid Ave,
Cleveland, OH 44115
[phone]

WKYC
1403 Lakeside Ave E,
Cleveland, OH 44114
[phone]

WOIO
1717 E 12th St,
Cleveland, OH 44114
[phone]

[American Tragedy]

32. kick

:kick:

This should be interesting. I refuse to watch the news anymore, but I'm told that unfortunately this situation has gotten virtually no coverage.

[boi1946]

34. I've had CNN

on as "background noise" this PM, and it was mentioned on Judy Woodruff, then Katherine Blackwell was on Crossfire. (Lying, and trying to belittle Jesse Jackson, as he did on Countdown.) Minimal mention of JK's name....

[GoSolar]

35. Some good news...

kick! :kick:

[0rganism]

42. Now that the horses are gone, it must be time to shut the barn door

Oh well. Maybe something helpful will come out of this, one way or another.

[Divine Discontent]

43. ashamed to say.....

I was BORN in that county.....

ugh.

right wing bigots of delaware county.

just so you know..... you'll ALLLLLL love this -

Delaware County, home of the LITTLE BROWN JUG (4th biggest race in horse racing! lol), WOULD NOT ALLOW FLUORIDE INTO THE DRINKING WATER WHEN I WAS YOUNG BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A COMMUNIST PLOT TO POISON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY TEETH SUCK~!

Bastards...

[Cronus Protagonist]

44. You should have brushed them

Also, fluoride is a waste byproduct of chemical (fertilizer) manufacturing, costs a lot of money to dispose of (if you don't dump it into the water supply) and is a highly poisonous reagent.

You are better off without it.

http://www.fluoridation.com/