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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:12 AM
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Voting errors tallied nationwide (4 pgs on today's Boston Globe site)
Edited on Wed Dec-01-04 10:16 AM by Rose Siding
More than 4,000 votes vanished without a trace into a computer's overloaded memory in one North Carolina county, and about a hundred paper ballots were thrown out by mistake in another. In Texas, a county needed help from a laboratory in Canada to unlock the memory of a touch-screen machine and unearth five dozen votes.

In other places, machine undercounting or overcounting of votes was a problem. Several thousand votes were mistakenly double-counted in North Carolina, Ohio, Nebraska, and Washington state. Some votes in other areas were at first credited to the wrong candidates, with one Indiana county, by some quirk, misallocating several hundred votes for Democrats to Libertarians. In Florida, some machines temporarily indicated votes intended for challenger John F. Kerry were for President Bush, and vice versa.
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''All day long, I get desperate calls from people who are in so much pain," said Harris, the Black Box founder, who said she is convinced fraud occurred in some places Nov. 2. ''They say: Can you fix it? Can you solve it? Can you turn around the presidential election? We're not trying to turn the election around. We're trying to get elections to be more transparent, because with the new machines, it's not transparent."

Deanie Lowe, Volusia's supervisor of elections, said she has complied with Harris's record requests and offered to recount, free of charge, any three of Volusia's 179 precincts selected by Harris.

Harris, however, said records for all precincts were not turned over, and Black Box will seek a 50-precinct recount in the county, which Kerry won but by a smaller margin than Gore did in 2000.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/12/01/voting_errors_tallied_nationwide/?rss_id=Boston.com%20/%20News%20/%20Politics%20/%20Recent%20Globe%20coverage
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:17 AM
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1. WAY TO GO BOSTON GLOBE !!!! Now hopefully other newspapers will follow
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:19 AM
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2. wow...great report...
Kind of puts a big bullseye on those key states... I think the Ohio recount will pick up steam... I still think that's why Bush has been so busy "getting down to business" with the new cabinet and trips out of the country...he knows this is coming...

when he said yesterday that a "poll was taken" in our country and his foreign policy was voted in...I almost puked.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:22 AM
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4. yes--it was a kneejecker (he forgets the millions who did not vote for him
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:44 AM
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11. Interesting that * cites polls when it suits him, but
claims the exit polls on election day were bunk.

Bastard.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:20 AM
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3. gread that this is finally covered in detail by a major newspaper!!



"None of the recounts or inquiries is expected to affect the results of the presidential election, which Bush won by more than 3.3 million votes."

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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:22 AM
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5. The Soultion?...More computer voting
As per the Help America Steal Votes Act of 2004.

The Globe says that the vague conspiracies fo fixed voting in irregular patterns has NOT stood up to the scrutiny of scholars. Oh, really?



Hey, at least they are addressing the subject.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:28 AM
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6. Classic cunning ways. 3 of 179
"Deanie Lowe, Volusia's supervisor of elections, said she has complied with Harris's record requests and offered to recount, free of charge, any three of Volusia's 179 precincts selected by Harris."

Why are there so many enemies of voting rights in our country?

Or is this just budgetary. Three Free - The Rest You Pay For? Or is it a carrot to only count three?

History repeats itself. Gore<>Jeb Bush Kerry<>Jeb Bush
Florida Rove Baker Theft
UN=AMERICAN!!!


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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:32 AM
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7. Protest in Ohio!
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:44 AM
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9. good list of speakers too....
Maybe it will get some coverage... Seems like a concentrated effort leading up to monday's certification...is this all part of "the plan" that was talked about after the election? Where is PeteNYC or Vetwife?? They both intimated about some "Dec surprise"...throw us a bone...come on!!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:50 AM
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12. This irresponsible reporting covers Lowe's crime
The Globe reports nothing about Lowe giving Bev the runaround about the original signed polling place tapes, or their subsequent discovery in the trash by Black Box Voting. They might as well have written, "Good reader, Election Supervisor Lowe's actions are unassailable. She's being generous by offering this three-fer."

:puke:

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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 10:36 AM
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8. We shold email the Globe with feedback--good and bad
Send encouragement for addressing the issue

...and can someone send results of some academic studies on voting irregularities so that they have the Rest of the Story? They claim that the theories don't hold up to scrutiny.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:26 AM
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10. Well, sadly,
the less fraud is uncovered, the stupider that makes American voters. Fraud makes me angry. Stupidity makes me angry AND sad.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 11:52 AM
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13. A break through in a big paper???...Hats off to Bev!! But where's the
action to clarify this???

No action????

Investigations are no good in a lawless society.
People just go back to work sweeping it all under a rug.

No one cares except.........DUrs.

Where are all these unemployed people???
Sitting watching TV????
Why aren't they marching in the streets???

What has happenned to the spirit of America???
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:17 PM
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14. Those aren't 'errors.'
They're fraud, not errors.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 12:19 PM
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15. Time for a Tea Party. Thanks, Boston.
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