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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:25 AM
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NYT: Russian Talk on Ukraine Recalls Cold War
Russian Talk on Ukraine Recalls Cold War
By ERIN E. ARVEDLUND

Published: December 2, 2004


MOSCOW, Dec. 1 - The Kremlin's words reached a shrill peak on Wednesday over the election crisis in Ukraine, as Russian officials here dusted off cold war vocabulary and summoned bitter visions of lost imperial ambitions and fears of Western meddling in Russia's sphere of influence.

The words began flowing in earnest over the weekend, as a Kremlin political strategist, Gleb O. Pavlovsky, voiced what many Russians fear is the true cause of the Ukrainian political crisis: that the West is using Ukraine as a testing ground for a "revolution" that may subsequently spread to Russia....

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The Kremlin under President Vladimir V. Putin is vastly different from what it was in the early post-Soviet years under Boris N. Yeltsin, who embraced the West and broke with traditional allies such as Belarus. Mr. Putin served in the security services and has publicly rued the end of the Soviet Union, and the Kremlin today views Ukraine in many ways as belonging to Russia.

Even young, successful Russians, whose memory of Soviet times is mostly of product shortages, share Mr. Putin's political views on Ukraine. "My Russian colleagues completely bowled me over, saying things like 'Russia should be sending the tanks into Ukraine - right away,' " said a British-born banker who works at a Russian company here....


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/02/international/europe/02moscow.html
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:54 AM
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1. Hoorah Budapest 1956 /sarcasm
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 06:53 AM by saigon68
Those Kommie tanks can sure flatten a skull, when driven over said skull.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 06:50 AM
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2. Putin should be calling for a revote in the US
He should place the legitimacy, belligerence and corruption of our government in question.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:31 AM
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3. How long do you think
it would take for the Chimperor to intervene militarily in either Canada or Mexico if either one announced an anti-Chimp alliance with say, Venezuela, Cuba, China, Russia, etc.?

Of course, first he would try the Diebold route, but if that didn't work, we'd see "shock and awe" North American style.
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:43 AM
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4. Pot calls kettle black!
The NYT is ignoring all the Cold War talk from the US!
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:17 AM
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5. Typical
Boris N. Yeltsin, who embraced the West and broke with traditional allies such as Belarus.

That's the kind of leader the US oligarchy and its propaganda organs like to see abroad. Corrupt, criminal, ineffectual, but steadfast in his embrace of the West.

Sick bastards.
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