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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:00 PM
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Kerik tops list to be Homeland chief (Worked Security for Saudi Royals)
BY KEN FIREMAN
WASHINGTON BUREAU

December 2, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik is the likely choice to head the federal Homeland Security Department during President George W. Bush's second term, according to sources close to Homeland Security officials.

Kerik would replace Tom Ridge, the first head of the department, who on Tuesday announced his intention to resign once a successor is in place.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uskeri1202,0,4251105,print.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

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Commissioner Kerik began his professional career as a member of the U.S. Army's Military Police, serving in Korea and in the 18th Airborne Corps where he trained Special Forces personnel. Following his military service, Commissioner Kerik traveled to Saudi Arabia where he assumed various security assignments, including protection for members of the Saudi Royal Family.

http://www.correctionhistory.org/html/chronicl/nycdoc/html/bbkcomplex.html


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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:02 PM
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1. Wait a minute!
Didn't Kerik cut and run from Iraq? He was hired by the Coalition Provisional Authority and ducked out very early......
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:03 PM
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2. yeah, crack job he did training the police in Iraq
:eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:43 PM
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14. read his OP-ed Baghdad City Cop
Baghdad City Cop
We beat crime in New York. We can do it in Baghdad.

BY BERNARD B. KERIK
Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:01 a.m. EDT

"Welcome to a free Iraq" is what Jerry Bremer, administrator for the Coalition Provisional Authority, said to me as he reached out to shake my hand when I arrived in Baghdad four months ago. I'm still moved by those words as I say them myself, "Welcome to a free Iraq," just as I was moved last week by President Bush--under pressure at home and abroad--standing firmly by our nation-building project in his U.N. speech.

As I toured Baghdad for the first time, I saw a city ravaged by war, looting and lawlessness. Or so I thought. What I didn't know then, and didn't learn until later, was that most of the damage to the infrastructure was caused by three decades of rule by a tyrant, who used his country's natural wealth not to enhance its power plants and sewage and water systems, but to aggrandize himself. These systems will now have to be built or rebuilt over the next several years and can't be fixed with a Band-Aid.





In my four months in Iraq, spent living with, working with, and learning from Iraqi police, I've seen things that would sicken the worst of minds. In our hunt for the Fedayeen Saddam, Saddam Hussein's trained assassins, I watched video after video of interrogations of Iraqis whose lives ended with the detonation of a grenade that was tied to the neck or stuffed in the shirt pocket of the victim. I watched the living bodies disintegrate at the pull of the pin. And if that's not enough, there's a tape of Saddam sitting and watching one of his military generals being eaten alive by Dobermans because the general's loyalty was in question.
But Iraq is now a different country. The rebuilding of the infrastructure has begun and the streets are full of life, with bustling markets and shops. But reconstruction isn't just about bricks and mortar: Iraq's civic structures were in tatters, too, especially its Baathist police force, an organization that had, in any case, no credibility with the Iraqi people. My job was to assist in setting up this force again, with proper training, new values, a respect for human rights. The latter phrase--"human rights"--has been absent from Iraq's vocabulary for decades. Certainly, no one has heard it uttered, until now, within the four walls of a police station. The magnitude of our task can be measured from the fact that we had to teach cops that when you pull a man suspected of a crime into the station, you can't just hang him upside-down and beat him with an iron bar.

Due to our efforts, 40,000 Iraqi police are back to work helping to restore law and order, and assisting the U.S.-led coalition in its hunt for Saddam and his loyalists. It's the beginning of a long haul. Like it or not, building a country from scratch takes time and money. Securing a country such as Iraq will take a professional civil police service, 65,000 to 75,000 strong, an Iraqi army of hundreds of thousands, and a temporary civil defense force to augment U.S. and coalition forces.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004077
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:32 PM
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17. Bush, 2000 Debates: "I don't believe in nation building."
Bernie: "I'm still moved by those words as I say them myself, "Welcome to a free Iraq," just as I was moved last week by President Bush--under pressure at home and abroad--standing firmly by our nation-building project in his U.N. speech."

:eyes:

Great find, maddezmom!!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:06 PM
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3. Oh, wonderful!
:mad:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:07 PM
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4. Saudi Royalty? Makes sense to me. (sarc/off)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:07 PM
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5. Former Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik recently sold $5 million of Taser
Former Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik recently sold $5 million of Taser stock amid speculation in some law enforcement circles that he is being considered to succeed Tom Ridge to head the Department of Homeland Security.

Kerik's sale of Taser stock coincides with that of Taser's chief executive and co-founder Patrick Smith and Smith's brother, Taser president Thomas Smith. Kerik has sat on the board of the stun gun company since 2002.

He could not be reached for comment.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-nyker014061153dec01,0,1345296.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:18 PM
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6. Isn't it amazing how well Kerik has done financially since 9/11?
Terra profiteer as well as war profiteer should come first on his resume.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:21 PM
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7. how does a police chief get $5 Million...??????????????????????
He's a "bag man" for "the powers that be".... look forward to the bullshit he is told to "scream"....
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:43 PM
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19. By being a consultant...
For Giuliani Partners, Inc. Google the sucker and you'll want to :puke:
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:56 PM
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18. Jimmy Breslin's take on Kerik
This was right after Bush's infamous 9/11 political ads: "Giuliani also had a flunkey, Bernard Kerik, rush on television and say, so earnestly, that the Bush commerical was appropriate. Kerik was a Giuliani campaign chauffeur who became police commissioner. How marvelous! At the world trade center, Kerik was in the back of his car dictating the last part of a book that was going to appear under his name. It had him writhing with delicious excitement. It was about his mother being a prostitute". "That's what's going to make me all the money," he told a friend of mine." http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0307-05.htm (Breslin: "He molests the dead") Guess being a ho runs in Kerik family.

And if I'm not mistaken , Kerik was the one sent to help "train" Iraqi policemen. And we all know how that turned out. About as well as Kerik protected NY from terrorists too. Yet Kerik announced if Kerry was elected we would definitely have another 9/11! Guess he forgot the first 9/11 was on bush's watch.

I can't stomach this man. One of the happiest days of my life was watching him getting booed by family members when the 9/11 Commission held a session here in NY. The look on his face! LOL! Loved it!

Well, guess that means his plans for running for Governor for New Jersey are out. He was going to "restore" morals in the Garden State, can you believe that one?




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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:26 PM
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8. Maybe he'll reform and prosecute the Saudis that financed OBL
or Pakistan's ISI that helped the 9/11 "flight students":mad:
Don't bet on reform, though, nor justice with him:grr:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:27 PM
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9. SURREAL...
it just gets more and more surreal.
I guess BushINC is modeling its empire after
the Saudi royal family.
I repeat, HS is NOT about protecting the
civilians of this country- it is about protecting the
Bush royal family from the citizens when they
try to resist being reduced to Walmart slave wage
workers, scratching the dirt for some roots to eat,
rummaging at the dump for some cardboard to
live in.
They certainly don't try to hide it either.
Too bad most Amercians don't understand what
they are witnessing.
bhn
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:29 PM
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10. I KNEW IT!!!
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:33 PM by sparosnare
I predicted this on Tuesday when Ridge resigned (posted it somewhere).

There's something about that man that I find revolting - not just that he's a RWer, can't quite put my finger on it.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:35 PM
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11. Can't put your finger on it?
Let me help...
Perhaps it is the horns and reptilian tail?
Or, the pitchfork perhaps?
Personally, I am disturbed by the fact that he
has no pulse and a forked tongue.
BHN
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:36 PM
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12. Here -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2767725#2767743

I wrote this Nov 30. Thanks for the help with the description BHN. :hi:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:42 PM
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13. Yep, you called it!
On another thread a group of us were discussing
the probablilty of the REAL dictators stepping in
to replace the warm up team.
I am afraid are fears were well founded.
I am sure if they could find a way to reanimate
Hilter, Stalin and Mussolini, they too would be appointed
to the new administration.
BHN
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:45 PM
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15. Seems to be happening that way -
time for them to go hardcore. I am truly afraid for all of us.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:52 PM
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16. Remember the movie "The Pianist?"
That's what all this reminds me of.
I remember the scene were they move all the
Jews into the ghetto, and a character says,
"Well, I am sure this is temporary..."

I wish this were only a movie, but it is reality.
We are in for a really BLACK period of our history.
Americans have NO idea who these people are,
and therefore they will not contest any of it.
And unfortunately, although our representatives
DO know who these jackboots are, they will
not protect us. Greed and avarice run
our government, all of it.
I am afraid too.
It is too late- the lines are being drawn and
NO one is lifting a finger to stop them.
bhn
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 03:54 PM
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20. And I thought Tom Ridge sucked!
Wow! This guy sounds really bad. Yep, he's going to protect the Chimp from us.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:33 PM
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21. Kerik also worked as a model for illustrators ..........
painting pictures of Nazi jackbooted thugs.

This man scares the bejeezus out of me. He has acted like a Nazi. He has comported with Nazis. He looks like a Nazi.

Substitute "duck" for "Nazi" in the above and all I can hear is ::::quack, quack, quack::::

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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:35 PM
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22. Such as waste of time....
just put Halliburton in charge of homeland security, I'm sure we'll get our moneys worth.
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