Rumsfeld warns Iran making 'a lot of mistakes'

[maddezmom]

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Iran was "making a lot of mistakes" but said any action to prevent it from acquiring nuclear weapons was a call for President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and other leaders to make.


Rumsfeld was asked in an interview with Fox News television whether the United States could allow Iran to become another North Korea (news - web sites), which is believed to have nuclear weapons.


"The Iranians are making a lot of mistakes, let me just put it that way," Rumsfeld said late Thursday.

~snip~

And what one has to do at that stage is continue to put pressure on them, and it's up to the countries of the United Nations to decide what kind of steps they may or may not want to take," he said.

more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1515&ncid=1515&e=10&u=/afp/20041203/wl_mideast_afp/us_iran_rumsfeld_041203104134

First Abazaid, now Rummy...so the beat goes on. :eyes:

edited to add link:
Rumsfeld acknowledges failure to predict insurgency, defends force size

~snip~
Asked in an interview with Fox News television the major mistakes of the war, Rumsfeld cited the failure to find weapons of mass destruction and "the fact of, was it possible to better estimate the insurgency?"

more:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1512&ncid=1512&e=2&u=/afp/20041203/wl_afp/iraq_us_rumsfeld_041203013019

Yeah, Rummy...let's talk about mistakes, there were no WMD's in IRAQ?? :puke:

[htuttle]

1. "Making a lot of mistakes"

Pot, meet kettle.

[bemildred]

2. Yep, he knows all about making lots of mistakes. nt

[MatrixEscape]

3. Yeah, right Rummy!

Let's see, Irag, then Iran. That means you have five more countries to go ala PNAC. I hope you don't think you can fool ALL of the people ALL of the time ;)

The US HAS to take the middle-east before Peak Oil takes us over the line. if not, some other country will.

Too bad the People are not told about it and consulted. There might be other options and ideas to explore other than big money for big oil corps, etc.

[ewagner]

4. If Rummy says it

then Cheney believes it...........

.........and.............

Bush* will do it...

Invading/bombing Iran is high on Cheney's agenda, they will give Bush* the public (dis)information tools to do it.

[LiberalAndProud]

5. And they spin and they spin and they spin

Rumsfeld was asked in an interview with Fox News television

Does anyone doubt that Fox News is the primary propaganda arm of this administration?

[0007]

33. I don't know CNN is right up and was out doing FAUX

during the election.

[petron]

6. The way I see it...

is that Bushco and PNAC will probably act sooner then later with Iran as to make sure they don't actually produce any significant nukes.

Therefore all this NEW talk in the media trying to vilify Iran with regards to their nuclear program is an attempt to manufacture consent with the BlueStateMorons and whoever else might believe this nonsense.

If you pay close attention, you will see each and every one of the Bushco team make pronouncements that Iran is breaking international law, not being truthful, blah blah blah. We've all seen it before. Remember the run up to *'s speech to the UN and then the Bushco Crime Against Humanity 1 (BCAH1) aka the Iraq war.

Look for BACH2 (aka the Iran war), coming to a TV near you!

Gawd, do I hate imperialism.

[cliss]

20. HI, Petron

Welcome to the DU! :smoke:

Nice post, and I agree with you 100%:toast:

[petron]

24. Thanks cliss

Hi there, thanks for the welcome.

It's amazing how completely disconnected sooooo many people are in this country.

At least I finally found an oasis of fairly common sense and often common views.

[bushisanidiot]

7. Ummm.. Pot, Kettle, Black, Mr. Rumsfeld

you haven't done one thing right since your crypt was opened up in 2001 and you were yanked into the Pentagon.

[Betty]

8. I just wish that when the draft comes

the only people that get drafted are those who voted for this asshole administration.

[NYC Liberal]

29. An amendment was proposed a while back

that required a national vote in order to go to war. And everyone who voted for it HAD to fight it.

I think we could use that right about now.

[Just Me]

34. Awwww,...man,...I WANT THAT AMENDMENT!!!! n/t

[NYC Liberal]

30. self-delete (n/t)

[Magleetis]

9. So what will be the

catchy name they use for the invasion? Operation Liquid Paper?

[petron]

13. How about...

...Operation BitchSlapp

It's not like we really respect Iran or anything and a good backhand across the chops is probably kinda how Bushco sees a strike on Iran.

Thank god I have a medical condition that'll keep me out of the "DRAFT" (that they keep saying we really aren't gonna have). Asthma sucks but being drafted would supremely suck.

[DinahMoeHum]

10. Gawd, what a candy-ass pussy he is.

:eyes:

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[maddezmom]

17. who are the "most"?

*, condi, cheney??? :eyes: and no I didn't watch

[SweetLeftFoot]

12. That's a bit rich ...

coming from the man who presided over large parts of Vietnam and is now repeating that stunning success in Iraq.

[daa]

14. As Iran laughs

Dude u have no troops - go cheney yourself.

[Swamp Rat]

15. Dummy's the one who's the expert about "unknown unknowns!"

"...was it possible to better estimate the insurgency?" HELL yeah! That's YOUR job you stupid asshole!

[hangloose]

16. It's obvious to me were being conditioned for a preemptive

action targeting Iran, which have been already decided. In a related matter CNN advertised yesterday a "special" on Nuclear terrorism against the US. We will, as stated by a Bush aide, "be confronted with another new reality created by the Bushies that will be studied after the event". Let's not be anguished or surprised when we wake up one morning in the near future to a CNN report of action against Iran to protect freedom and America. Better we fight them over there than here, right America!!

This whole discussion in the media about good cop bad cop is a deception. Since that presumes the assministration is working in tandem with Europe toward a peaceful resolution. I doubt this I feel that Europe is working very hard to set a frame work to take the initiative away from the US, so chuckles can't state the international community is doing nothing and therefore we have to.

We can all see it coming. if Bush is one thing it's predictable.

[cliss]

26. I agree.

These guys are masters of deception. We should NOT let ourselves be fooled by their little smoke and mirror tricks. They think they are so subtle. So honest. So above-board.

I recall reading a quote somewhere, from several years ago. Maybe it was an article in Time magazine. This was an aide, quite high up in the Bush Administration. He said, "no matter what is happening, we will always be 10 steps ahead of everyone".

I interpreted this to mean that they were going to create chaos everywhere, enough to keep people frantically busy. Meanwhile, they would be somewhere else, pillaging and looting. Kinda like 2 people that go into the 7-11 store. One person starts talking to the clerk, distracting him. Down the aisle, #2 is busy stuffing things into his pockets.

Like you wrote, they are quite predictable. And that's good, because we can always see them coming.

[Ima]

31. SOS different country

I'm waiting for the tie in to 911.

[jmcgowanjm]

18. Iran's biggest "mistake"-

The Iranians are about to commit an offense far greater
than Saddam Hussein’s conversion to the euro for his
oil exports back in the fall of 2000. In March (21-Iran New Year)2005 Iran is going
to start competing with New York’s NYMEX and London’s
IPE with respect to international oil trades - using a euro-
based international oil-trading mechanism.

http://www.perfect.co.uk/2004/10/the-real-reasons-why-iran-is-the-next-target

He said other members of the Organization of
Petroleum Exporting Countries - Iran is the producer
group's second-largest producer behind Saudi Arabia - as
well as oil producers from the Caspian region would
eventually participate in the
exchange.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/15/152148/15

Britain has yet to adopt the euro. If the US takes over Iraq
and blocks the euro's incursion into oil trading, Tony Blair
will have given his French and German counterparts a
bloody nose, and gained more room to manouevre on the
issue -- perhaps years more room. Britain would be in a
position to demand a better deal from its EU partners
for entering the "eurozone" if the new currency could not
make the huge value gains guaranteed by a significant role
in world oil trading. It might even be in a position to
withdraw from Europe and link with America against
continental Europe.
On the other hand, if the US cannot maintain the oil trade
dollar monopoly, the euro will rapidly go from strength
to strength, and Britain could be left begging to be allowed
into the club.

[jmcgowanjm]

19. Flashback - Saddam begins selling oil for Euros November 2002

The tender, for which bids are due by June 10 (2003), switches
the transaction back to dollars - the international currency of
oil sales - despite the greenback's recent fall in value. Saddam Hussein in 2000 insisted Iraq's oil be sold for euros, a political move, but one that improved Iraq's recent earnings thanks to the rise in the value of the euro against the dollar.

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/Web%20Pages/FINANCIAL%20TIMES_Iraq%20returns%20to%20international%20oil%20market.htm

http://www.rferl.org/features/2000/11/01112000160846.as...

Has any country ever sold its oil for Euros?  Saddam
Hussein's Iraq did starting in November 2002.  And if you
think the invasion just four months later was a coincidence,
I have a bridge to sell you in Arizona.  Since the overthrow of
the Hussein regime, Iraq's oil is now safely sold only
for American dollars.

As a side note, while Hugo Chavez has not begun
to
sell Venezuelan oil for Euros, he has worked out a barter
system with 13 South American countries.  Every time
Chavez "barters" oil for goods instead of selling it in dollars,
the U.S. dollar is threatened.

We shoot down MIGS-attributed to Colin Powell
(off the record).

[SKKY]

21. Oh boy...

...we've all seen this movie before. Anyone care to guess what the ending will be?

[leftchick]

22. sounds like an old movie....

didn't chimpy say someything about being tired of old movies?

[Cocoa]

23. Iran should respond with this quote:

from a wise man...

http://www.chemistrycoach.com/quotatio.htm

Success tends to go not to the person who is error-free, because he also tends to be risk-averse. Rather it goes to the person who recognizes that life is pretty much a percentage business. It isn't making mistakes that's critical; it's correcting them and getting on with the principal task. Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense(2/8/94)

[VegasWolf]

25. Hey, if anybody is an expert on mistakes, Rummy's a grand master. n/t

[rhyfeddu]

27. Who knew war had its own fore-play...

..And Rummy is fumbling with the buttons, trying to get to second base...

Ghod. Yes, Iran-as-(NEW! IMROVED!)-ultimate-Evil is the latest talking point. Watch and weep as it unfolds...

:grr:

[FormerOstrich]

28. So...when does Congress vote to give * the

authority to invade....or is it covered on the Iraq mandate....or hell does * even need to make the motions any more.......

and now for the next episode of the Real Gilligan's Island....

[Just Me]

36. I think he may already have a kind of mandate,...I could be wrong.

But, I do vaguely recall congress signing several things with respect to Iran and Syria and North Korea. I can't remember the particulars but recall thinking to myself, "do these people have any idea what path they are being led down"?

[OneTwentyoNine]

40. Nah....just say its a just cause and call in the bombers

[Barrett808]

32. Mistakes? Pot. Kettle. Black. n/t

[tom_paine]

35. Looks like the Pravda is gearing up to justify the Next War

Of course, LIHOP #2, as soon as Bin Laden carries it out for his Former (and perhaps) Current Employers, will be used to justify it.

LIHOP #2 can and WILL facilitate the next transformation.

[leftofcool]

37. Taking bets on whose after Iran..........

Syria
Korea
France
Russia
Germany
Canada


LeftofCool

[jayfish]

39. None Of The Above.

Attacking Iran will take a heavy toll on America and the Middle East. Unlike Iraq, Iran has the ability to reach-out and touch all of it's neighbors. They would eventually be subjugated like the Iraqis but they will cut out their pound of flesh.


ON EDIT: Welcome to DU :hi:
Jay

[StaggerLee]

38. I really hope that Iran has flower vendors

I was sooo disappointed when our troops didn't get their ticket tape flower parade last time.

Oooooh! Maybe Halliburton can write up a contract for that!

Cheeeeck!