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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 02:54 PM
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Jackson Hole herd heads for slaughter


Friday, December 03, 2004

JACKSON (AP) -- Some 550 cattle -- a mix of Hereford and Angus heifers, cows and bulls -- are being shipped to slaughter after four of the animals tested positive for brucellosis.

The slaughter process, which began Wednesday, ends an era in Jackson Hole ranching, wiping out the Porter family's registered cattle bloodline and casting doubt on the future of the 822-acre ranch, which has been the focus of numerous development plans.

The alternative for the families running the ranch was a year of extensive testing and quarantine.

About 200 heifer calves, 6 to 7 months old, will be spared by being spayed and sold to a rancher in Sublette County. Once spayed, the calves do not pose a danger, according to Bret Combs, a veterinarian with the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.

The herd's destruction wipes out a Hereford bloodline developed through decades of breeding. Four generations of the Robert Bruce Porter family have raised cattle on the ranch since the 1930s, often buying the best bulls to build their stock.

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2004/12/03/news/abf133468d08e1e487256f5f0004fabc.txt
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:09 PM
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1. "...which has been the focus of numerous development plans."
When I read that, it struck me. Maybe the developers are doing a little biological warfare to get the ranchers to sell. I would not put it past them. This may also be bad for the bison herds in Yellowstone and Jackson Hole, if they get pinned as the source of the brucellosis, it will give the USDA and local ranchers all the reason to go into Yellowstone and slaughter those herds as well, something they have been itching to do for a long time.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:15 PM
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2. Even if it's so
Without proof it's just a private tragedy.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:19 PM
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3. Especially if you're the cow!!
:evilgrin:
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:39 PM
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14. I think your right
Voters rejected the most recent annexation plan in 2002 by a 2-to-1 ratio. The town's development plan would have allowed the construction of 1,850 homes and 475,000 square feet of commercial space
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:30 PM
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19. the obvious thing to do
is to raise bison. Much lower overhead, easier on the land and a leaner, heathier product. I hope those folks have some kind of insurance to make the obvious option possible for them.
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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:52 PM
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28. Bison
can and do carry brucillosis as well. Hell, even dogs can have it.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:11 AM
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29. Actual;ly
the cattle probably got the brucellosis from bison.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:46 AM
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31. Unlikely from bison, probably from elk
Wild bison are largely confined to Yellowstone National Park by culling, while elk roam freely through much of the Rocky Mountains range. Both carry brucellosis. Also, there haven't been any confirmed cases of bison ever infecting cattle with brucellosis, despite claims they threaten cattle herds (and thus to justify the cullings).
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:24 PM
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4. Were they unable
to collect and freeze semen? Somehow I can't believe if this herd was so important that they didn't do that. Is brucellosis in semen? Sorry, I guess I need to look up brucellosis.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:35 PM
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5. There you go
turning this into a sex thread. :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:48 PM
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9. HeeHee sorry.
In the horse breeding business, or was. Could not help myself.
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:47 PM
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27. cows huh?
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 08:47 PM by Rush1184
kinky

j/k
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:41 PM
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7. It is a reproductive disease, so I would imagine so
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:54 PM
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10. Thanks
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 03:54 PM by MuseRider
I looked at your source and another and it still seems they could have afforded to protect the blood lines with some treatment and AI.

Edit: At least with a few good bulls and cows
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:18 PM
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13. Not cost effective
I think that making $$$ is more imporatant to some ranchers than maintaining a historic blood line. Some ranchers are sentimental about the land and history though.
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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:43 PM
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21. Yes, it is spread through contact with genetalia...and can
pose risks to humans because it is extremely contagious. When I was 8, my dog got it, and we had to put him down :(
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:41 PM
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6. "The alternative for the families running the ranch ...
"... was a year of extensive testing and quarantine."

The article didn't say why this was economically impossible. Ranching is hard work. Between their compensation & money gained from selling off to developers, they do quite well.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:43 PM
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8. Especially in Jackson Hole
That is some prime real estate. I am sure they drive Land Rovers and hang out with Harrison Ford.;)
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:12 PM
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16. Paying for all of the testing and being unable
to sell any livestock would be very expensive for any rancher. No income just out go.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:58 PM
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11. "Compensated at market value"
So let me get this straight, several ranch families are going to get oodles of money from the federal government to compensate for the loss of a valuable Hereford bloodline AND they just happen to be sitting on prime development land. Hmmmm...
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:03 PM
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15. One big family
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:22 PM
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18. Hardeman too?
I was referring to this, not the 3 families listed. Is this guy family too?

"..Wilson rancher Steve Hardeman was forced to destroy 100 head of cattle last summer after one old cow tested positive.

Hardeman's cattle had commingled with the Hereford herd in South Park, and the cases are believed to be linked."
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:06 PM
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22. couldn't tell for sure
but I wouldn't be surprised if they were related.




There does seam to be an effort to get rid of the cattel.


"The "greenies" don't want cattle anywhere on government land in the north-west part of the state, so don't want the buffalo or elk vaccinated, although some have been."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:11 PM
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23. That makes no sense
If environmentalists think elk and bison will win over cattle, they're delusioned. They need to co-exist and most environmentalists I know agree with that. I do hope you're not confusing PETA psychos with environmentalists, they aren't the same at all.
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:21 PM
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24. info
Don't know ...jusy copied remark on ranching forum.

http://www.unep-wcmc.org/protected_areas/data/sample/0051u.htm


Management Constraints The commercial airport in the park and its associated noise, private inholdings and residences in the park, elk hunting, domestic livestock grazing and a dam on Jackson Lake make up the disturbances.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:26 PM
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25. Grand Teton National Park???
Sorry, have no idea what your point is. The park isn't there for the purpose of grazing cattle. If environmentalists are trying to get cattle out of a National Park, good for them. I had no idea we were letting cattle graze in national parks in the first place and I tend to keep up with that kind of thing.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:14 AM
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30. Not sure if yoiu know
but "greenie" specifically means a Colorodoan, if you're from Wyoming.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:06 PM
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12. more propaganda for my local ranchers
this is all we need.

thank goodness we found petrified big horn sheep horn in a tree to prove in court they predated the cattle. Fought us tooth and nail to bring in herd that were indigenous to mountains
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:17 PM
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17. That's a new one
They actually tried to say cattle were in the US before the big horn sheep??? I guess I shouldn't be surprised, would love to hear more.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:40 PM
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20. love it
I've had locals swear that the gov is introducing coyote and puma in SC to control deer numbers. Also that they have seen "black panthers". One country lawyer type claimed that a small dark cat(olingo?)was being introduced into the southern Appalachians. This is what we're up against, folks.
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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:02 PM
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26. Brucellosis controversy
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 08:09 PM by ecoalex
As an eco farmer, I know of alternative philosophies on brucellosis. The Homeopathic have remedies, douches, the Nutritionists have a nutritional regimen . The alternative view is that brucellosis is a nutritional deficiency , not a bacterial disease.Ecological Soil nutritionists, like Dr Albrecht, have proven that brucellosis can be "fed out" of animals "curing them". They no longer were positive testors with the blood test for brucellosis. Humans can get Undulant fever, a nasty disease.

Clinical description :

The disease spreads into the blood after ingestion and absorption from the gut. It reaches the lymph system and spleen which enlarge in an attempt to stop further progression of the disease. During this reaction the patient starts to experience the characteristic bouts of fever.

The disease is not usually fatal, but the intermittent fevers (a source of its nickname, "undulant fever") can be exhausting. The patient maybe febrile for 4 months before remitting to develop fever one month later. Symptoms usually appear between five days and a month after exposure and begin with a single bout of high fever accompanied by shivering, aching, and drenching sweats that last for a few days. Other symptoms may include headache, poor appetite, backache, weakness, and depression. Mental depression can be so severe that the patient may become suicidal.

In rare, untreated cases, the disease can become so severe that it leads to fatal complications, such as pneumonia or bacterial meningitis. B. melitensis can cause miscarriages, especially during the first three months of pregnancy. The condition can also occur in a chronic form, in which symptoms recur over a period of months or years.

A combination antibiotic therapy, such as doxycycline and rifampin or an aminoglycoside, is recommended to treat and prevent relapse of infection. Longer courses of therapy may be required for complications
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:50 AM
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32. If it's a nutritional deficiency
Why does treatment with antibiotics work?
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