DEFENSE DRILLS SET FOR COUNTRY (in Cuba - worried about US invasion)

[Mika]

DEFENSE DRILLS SET FOR COUNTRY
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/americas/10336187.htm

HAVANA -- Worried about possible U.S. military action against Cuba during President Bush's second term, Cuba's Revolutionary Armed Forces announced a series of defense exercises for the general population.

The Defense Ministry said the Strategic Bation 2004 Exercise would be held throughout the country Dec. 13-19.

for every action there is an opposite reaction

[Deja Q]

1. Does Cuba have oil? Or has Castro's brain addled with age?

:shrug:

Why is he afraid?

[brainshrub]

2. I was thinking the same thing.

Cubans are loyal Republican voters in Miami, that will all end once Castro is gone.

[Mika]

3. Not really. brainshrub, don't assume.

ex:

charts from opensecrets.org

[brainshrub]

6. Well, I'll be a monkeys uncle!

I grew up in SoFla. Every Cuban I knew voted Republican because they believed that Conservatives are tougher on Castro.

Those charts are very reveling.

[Mika]

7. The "librul" Cuban-Americans in Miami dare not speak out

Unless you have lived in Miami and have done some exploration of exile terra you have no idea just how violent the anti Castro miamicuban "exiles" are.

This is just a SHORT list of what I could track down in a couple of minutes.

There are HUNDREDS more. NOTHING is done. NOBODY cares.


1. 30325M Nibaldo Capote--3/20 Grenade- - - - - Albina Wolfe - - -5900 NW 37 Street

2. 41039M Albina Wolfe - - 4/14 Grenade- - - - - Nibaldo Capote- -1315 SW 19 Street

3. 42114M Student - - - - - 4/17-Pipe- - - - - - - University of Miami - 5602 Merrick
Revolutionaries- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dean's Office

4. 55040M Cubans - - - - - - 5/20-Dynamite - - - Lindsey Hopkins - - - 17 Street & NW
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Blue T-Shirt - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 22 PL

5. 63033M – - - - - - - - -6/7 Dynamite Cap- Henry Ritter - - - - -- 840 NW 144 ST

6. 88039M Machinists Union-8/11 Dynamite - - - - Adam Dalisin - - - 5891 West 10 Ave
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hialeah

7. 76805M Julio Perez Perez- 9/1- Clock, C4 - - - - Boulevard Drive-In - West Palm Beach
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Batteries, Cap

8. 116433M Cubans - - - - - - 10/20-Dynamite, - - - Publications - - - - - -500 NW 22 Ave
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Note, Pipe - - - Distributors
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -& Fuse

9.116434M Cubans - - - - - - - -10/20- Dynamite, - - - WGBA - - - - - - - - 1301 SW 1st St
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Note, Pipe & Fuse

10. 132884M Salon, Llarena -11/30--Fingers, - - - - - General Electric - 1062 East 2nd St
& Considine - - - - - - - Timer & & Dynamite- - - - - - - - - Hialeah

11. 132688M Salon, Llarena - 12/1- Dynamite, - - - - Overseas Tire Co.-3355 NW 41 St
& Considine- - - - - - - Cap & Fuse

12. 134257M Salon, Llarena 12/1- -Dynamite, - - - - World Transport - 7040 NW 35 Ave
& Considine- - - - - - -Can & Cap


http://cuban-exile.com/doc_001-025/doc0022.html

2/16/75 My Cuba Grocery Miami, Florida Terrorist Bomb- high explosive

2/24/75 Channel 51 (TV station) 777 NE 79 St. Terrorist Bomb- high explosive

3/30/75 L. Magdaleno 3395 SW 28 St. Terrorist Dynamite

5/02/75 Dade Cnty Bridge SW 12 St. & 94 Ave. Non-terrorist (vandalism)

5/11/75 Bay of Pigs Monument SW 8St. & 13 Ave. Terrorist Dynamite

5/14/75 Carlos Gallostra Variety Hospital, SW 31 ST & 59 AV Terrorist Letter Bomb

5/23/75 Robert James Kenny 16480 NE 20 Ave. Non-terrorist Pipe bomb

7/04/75 Coral Park Sr. High 8865 SW 16 St. Non-terrorist Home-made device

7/26/75 Torch of Friendship NE 4 St & Biscayne Blvd Terrorist Rafael Gonzalez High explosive

8/26/75 Replica Magazine 2994 NW 7 St. Terrorist High explosive

8/17/75 Phillips 66 Service Station 490 NW 36 St. Unverified

9/05/75 Arturo Perez 711 NW 57 Ave. Non-terrorist Homicide

9/08/75 Mike Whalen 1950 W. 49 St., Hialeah Non-terrorist

10/03-75 Randolph Kout 2903 NE 103 St. Non-terrorist

10/06/75 Dominican Republic Consulate 1038 Brickell Ave. Terrorist Dynamite

10/17/75 American Lockers Miami Int'l Airport Terrorist Rolando Otero Time bomb

10/20/75 Dominicana Airlines 1440 Biscayne Blvd. Terrorist Time bomb

10/31/75 Rolando Masferrer 6765 SW 27 St. Terrorist Time bomb

11/12/75 June Higgins Dance Studio So. Miami Heights Non-terrorist

11/27/75 Bahama Airlines Miami Int'l Terrorist Castillo, Ruiz, Ortega Plastic explosive.

11/27/75 Perez Stable University of Miami Terrorist Rafael Gonzalez Black powder

12/03/75 Social Security Miami Office Terrorist Rolando Otero "El Condor"
12/03/75 F.B.I. Miami All pipe bombs with timing devices "
12/03/75 U.S. Post Office Miami " " sketch of bomber
12/03/75 Social Security Miami Office " "
12/03/75 Barnett Bank Miami " "
12/04/75 State Atty's Office Miami " "
12/04/75 Miami Police Dept Miami " "

12/09/75 Paul Array 6930 NW 180 St. Non-terrorist

12/12/75 Almacen En Espanol 1359 SW 1 St. Terrorist Time bomb

12/12/75 Almacen En Espanol 910 W. 44 St. Hialeah Terrorist Time bomb

12/16/75 Howard Singer 15300 SW 82 Ave. Non-terrorist

12/18/75 Ramon Donestevez Crandon Marina Terrorist (victim suspected) Dynamite

12/24/75 Roger Smith SW 73 St. & 57 Court Non-terrorist

12/31/75 F.P. & L. Station SW 130 St. & 98 AV Terrorist Rolando Otero Time bomb

1976

01/01/76 Soffla NW 178 St. & 82 AV Non-terrorist Acetylene gas

01/04/76 T.G. Barry's mailbox 13525 SW 69 Ave. Non-terrorist dynamited

01/05/76 Robert Ward's mailbox 781 NW 187 Dr. Non-terrorist bombed

01/08/76 Sergeant 21230 NE 14 Ave. Non-terrorist Mailbox bombed

01/26/76 Robert Schwartz 10561 SW 71 Ave. Non-terrorist Mailbox bombed

01/31/76 Frank Suarez 301 NW 39 Ave. Non-terrorist Powder in plastic bottle

02/01/76 Mario Escandar 275 Deer Run Non-terrorist Blasting caps (narcotic related)

02/08/76 Donald Wagner 8201 SW 62 Ave. Non-terrorist Molotov cocktail

03/75/76 Sebastian's Lounge 2490 SW 17 Ave. Non-terrorist
(suspected of being a homosexual hangout)

03/12/76 Ena Furniture 3400 NW 17 Ave. Non-terrorist Dynamite

03/31/76 Seacot 30 NW No. River Dr. Terrorist Dynamite/time bomb

04/03/76 Coral Gables Police car Univ of Miami Terrorist Dynamite & caps
Student Union bldg Univ of Miami Terrorist Gustavo Castillo, Orestes Ruiz Dynamite & caps

04/14/76 Bay of Pigs Monument SW 8 St. & 13 AV Terrorist Rolando Otero M-26 grenade

04/30/76 Emilio Milian 1301 SW 1 St. Terrorist Dynamite

05/06/76 Adult Book Store 3458 SW 8 St. Terrorist Rafael Gonzalez, Jesus Blas Corbo, Gary Latham

05/11/76 Dade County 1305 SW 40 St. Terrorist

05/25/76 So. Miami Jr. High 6855 SW 56 St. Non-terrorist

06/15/76 Dade County (open field) NW 154 St. & 119 AV Non-terrorist

1977

02/18/77 Evelyn Schwartz 10561 SW 71 Ave. Non-terrorist (vandalism)
previous bombing incident at same location on 1/24/76, victim Robert Schwartz

04/11/7 Smith 11200 W. Golf Dr. Non-terrorist

08/14/77 Venezuelan Military Aircraft Miami Int'l Terrorist Luis Boitel Commando Dynamite

08/15/77 Frederico Boyd 52 NW 9 St. Non-terrorist

08/25/77 Coral Park Apts. 9856 SW 8 St. Non-terrorist (stairwell)

09/19/77 Dupont Plaza Hotel 300 SE Biscayne Blvd Terrorist Luis Boitel Commando
09/19/77 Four Ambassadors 801 So. Bayshore Drive All pipe bombs "
09/19/77 Fontainebleau Hotel 4441 Collins Ave. "
09/19/77 Eden Roc Hotel 4525 Collins Ave. "

11/14/77 Dade County NW 84 St. & 5 Ave. Non-terrorist (road)

12/23/77 Venezuelan Airlines Ticket Off 1600 Collins Ave. Terrorist Luis Boitel
Commando Pipe bomb

1978

02/08/78 Harold Schiffman "Pinky" NE 203 St. & 32 AV Non-terrorist (labor union dispute)

02/23/78 Marco Polo Hotel 19201 Collins Ave. Terrorist (El Condor)

05/10/78 Kaplan Const. SW 92 St. & 70 AV Non-terrorist (portable toilet)

07/18/78 Florida Power & Light, Turkey Point Plant Non-terrorist

08/28/78 Judy Klozewski 16035 SW 103 Pl. Non-terrorist
(homicide, by victim's husband, who also killed victim's mother and beat victim's brother)

09/05/78 Officer J. Carter, FL Game & Fresh Water 1003 NW 9 St., Homestead
Non-terrorist Blasting cap

09/13/78 Dade County Haulover Beach Marina, 10880 Collins Ave. Non-terrorist

1979

03/20/79 Coca Cola Co. 186 SW 1 St. (vending machine) Homestead Non-terrorist

03/24/79 Padron Cigars 1566 W. Flagler St Terrorist Dynamite

04/05/79 John Hill 14920 SW 74 St. Non-terrorist (vehicle)

07/26/79 Padron Cigars 1566 W. Flagler St. Terrorist High explosive

09/08/79 Rev. Manual Espinosa (church) Red Rd. & W. 18 ST Hialeah Terrorist Dynamite

11/02/79 Avant Const Co 84 Crandon Blvd. Key Biscayne Non-terrorist (Halloween vandalism)

1980

01/19/80 State of Florida 1361 W. 33 St. Hialeah Non-terrorist Dynamite cap

2/21/80 So Gear & Machine 3685 NW 106 St. Non-terrorist (possible vandalism) pipe bomb

04/04/80 Dade County 7290 NW 7 Ave. Non-terrorist (open field) Pipe bomb

09/04/80 Steven Forrestall 870 SW 129 Place Non-terrorist (vehicle) Pipe bomb

09/27/80 SW 152 St. & 235 AV Non-terrorist Powder bomb

10/10/80 Semasaro Market 11537 NW 27 Ave. ? Pipe bomb - PVC

11/19/80 Santiago Mena 7980 SW 34 St. Non-terrorist (possible Santeria nexus)
Residue: chlorate and sugar

12/30/80 American Airways 1840 W. 49 St. Hialeah Terrorist Omega 7 Dynamite/time bomb

1981

06/04/81 Unknown 10800 SW 106 Ave. Non-terrorist (narcotics related)

06/19/81 Sanford Burton Pumperniks Deli Non-terrorist (organized crime related) (gambler)

06/30/81 Pipe bomb on engine block of a construction crane 19600 SW 110 Ct. Non-terrorist

07/25/81 Falero Trucking Co. 6767 NW 74 Ave. Non-terrorist (labor related)

07/27/81 National Const. Co 12060 NW So. River Drive Non-terrorist (labor related)

09/11/81 Mexican Consulate 440 Brickell Ave. Terrorist Omega 7 High explosives

09/11/81 Replica Magazine 2994 NW 7 St. Terrorist Omega 7 Propane fire bomb

09/15/81 Eliecen Fernandez 505 SW 102 Ave. Unverified Pipe bomb

09/24/81 Luis Bato (mailbox) 211 SW 119 Ave. Non-terrorist (criminal mischief)

1982

02/19/82 Trans Cuba 2742 SW 8 St. Terrorist Omega 7 57 mm shell with explosive

02/19/82 Replica Magazine 2994 NW 7 St. Terrorist Omega 7 57mm shell with explosive

02/21/82 Padron Cigars 1566 W. Flagler St. Terrorist Omega 7 Molotov cocktail

02/21/82 Hispania Inter-Am Pharmacy 2085 SW 1 St. Terrorist Omega 7 Machine-gun fire

02/22/82 Manuel Lorenzo 2740 NW 16 Tr. Non-terrorist
(owns Majestic Travel Agency, 5574 W. Flagler St.)

03/03/82 Alvin Malnik (vehicle) Crickett Club, 1800 NE 114 St Non-terrorist

04/10/82 Dade County SW 144 St. & 67 Ave. Non-terrorist

06/01/82 Lucille's Market (Khaled A. Khalaf, owner) 9300 NW 17 Ave. ?

06/27/82 Lenny's Cash & Jewelry (Carl Stewart, owner) 810 NW 79 St. Non-terrorist

07/22/82 Cozzoli's Pizza 10734 SW 72 St. Non-terrorist

08/22/82 Anthony Angelos (vehicle) 21000 NE 28 Ave. Non-terrorist (organized crime related)

08/10/82 Yamis Callahan 19523 SW 118 Pl. Non-terrorist (victim believed to be perpetrator)

09/04/82 Venezuelan Consulate 100 Biscayne Blvd. Terrorist Omega 7 Pipe bomb

10/02/82 Bingo Hall (Peter Ruso, owner) 4686 NW 183 ST Non-terrorist (organ crime related)

1983

01/11/83 Replica Magazine 2994 NW 7 St. Terrorist Omega 7 Plastic explosive

01/11/83 Paradise Int'l 940 SW 5 St. Terrorist Omega 7 Plastic explosive

01/11/83 Padron Cigars 1566 W. Flagler St. Terrorist Omega 7 Plastic explosive

03/07/83 Bomb in stolen 9431 SW 4 St. Non-terrorist vehicle abandoned

05/30/83 Continental Bank (Bernard Benes) 1801 SW 1 St. Terrorist Omega 7 Pipe Bomb
06/13/83 Militant Book Store 1237 NW 119 St. Non-terrorist

--

-- May 1, 1987, a pipe bombing at Cubanacan in Miami;

-- May 2, 1987, a pipe bombing at Almacen El Espanol in Hialeah, Florida;

-- May 25, 1987, a pipe bombing at Cuba Envios in Miami

-- July 30, 1987, a pipe bombing at Machi Community Services in Miami;

-- August 27, 1987, a pipe bombing at Va Cuba in Hialeah;

-- January 2, 1988, a pipe bombing at Miami-Cuban in Miami;

-- May 3, 1988, a pipe bombing at the Cuban Museum of Arts and Culture in Miami;

-- May 26, 1988, a bombing at the residence of the executive director for the Institute of Cuban Studies in
Coral Gables, Florida, claimed by the AIC;

-- September 5, 1988, a pipe bombing at Bela Cuba in Miami;

-- September 18, 1988, a bombing intended for a leader of the Reunion Flotilla, a group which advocates that all persons hould be able to enter or leave Cuba as they please, in Miami;

-- February 24, 1989, an attempted pipe bombing at Almacen El Espanol in Miami;

-- March 26, 1989, a bombing at Marazul Charters in Miami; and

-- September 10, 1989, a bombing at Super Optical in Hialeah.


Unfortunately, many of these small groups (the anti Castro terra groups) have connections with, or are extensions of, US government agencies like the CIA, NED, SOA, etc. The hundreds of 'small acts of terra' in Miami are, essentially, US government sponsored terra against its own citizens.

If you live in Miami (and don't toe the anti Cuba line) you really know what terror feels like.

[Judi Lynn]

8. Horrendous list, Mika. I'm still having a hard time overcoming the shock

of their having car bombed Emilio Milián, the Cuban "exile" who dared to tell them over his radio station that their violence in Miami should end.

The very same bomb-happy fanatics in Miami somehow worked it into their busy schedule to terrorize the island of Cuba starting the very year of the revolution:

Double Standard: Four decades of US-sponsored terrorism


by Simon Wallers

Havana, Sept 20 (NY Transfer) --Well, it took a little over a week but as expected the anti-Cuba rightwingers in Miami have weighed in against Cuba by accusing the island of maintaining contact with today's most hated man in the world, Osama Bin Laden.

The accusation is so ridiculous that it's not worth addressing as such, but it prompts this reminder of the terrible terrorist attacks suffered by this country over the four decades of its Revolution. And in our case, it wasn't one individual's maniacal crusade in opposition to the foreign intervention policies of the world's biggest power, but the world's biggest power in opposition to the internal socio-political system of a small island neighbor.

The list of attacks against Cuba is so long that I had to turn to Jane Franklin's chronological history of the Cuban Revolution <1> for dates and to place things into proper context.

From the outset of the Revolution, barely days after Washington recognized the new government of Fidel Castro in January of 1959, the CIA began a campaign to overthrow Cuba's new leader. It is a campaign that has lasted through today, and is replete with anecdotes and tragedy. From as early as March 10, 1959 the US National Security Council met in secret to discuss ways to replace the new Cuban government by any means necessary. In August two Cuban planes were destroyed in Miami in an attack against air travel to Cuba. Fortunately, no one was hurt. A small plane that originated in the US was intercepted by Cuban authorities with a US citizen on board intending to assassinate Fidel Castro. In October, the first of a wave of attacks on sugar mills by planes flying in from the US began; a plane from Miami bombed Havana; and a train was machine-gunned in Las Villas -- again from a light aircraft that had originated in the United States. All this happened in the first year of the Revolution. The message from Washington was clear and Cuban lives had already been lost in the process.

The following year the Belgian ship, Le Coubre, blew up in Havana's harbor killing some 100 sailors and dock workers. Although sabotage was never proved, it was very likely. In March of 1960 US President Eisenhower ordered CIA director Allen Dulles to organize and train Cuban exiles for an invasion of Cuba. By August of the same year the CIA was recruiting members of US organized crime, including Santos Traficante and Sam Giancana, to assassinate Fidel Castro who was then Prime Minister. The FBI under Hoover was fully aware of the plots and provided logistic support. The assassination attempts were later published in a damning report by the House Select Committee on Assassinations in the late seventies.

By the end of 1960, 17 former Cuban police/army members under the Batista dictatorship were arrested for throwing sticks of dynamite into stores and theaters, and the year was seen out with a fire that destroyed a famous Havana department store -- all done with money and support from terrorist groups operating openly in Florida as they do to this day.
(snip/...)

http://www.newhumanist.com/cubaterror.html

[demophile]

19. “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba”

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”

[Judi Lynn]

23. Most people have NO idea any of this EVER was considered.

You really have to live with this new information a long time before it can really start sinking in. On first and second reading, you simply can't absorb the idea that grown men would actually consider these actions.

These ideas actually started forming during EISENHOWER'S Presidency. Here's a quick grab from google:

For those military officers who were sitting on the fence, the Kennedy administration's botched Bay of Pigs invasion was the last straw. "The Bay of Pigs fiasco broke the dike," said one report at the time. "President Kennedy was pilloried by the super patriots as a 'no-win' chief . . . The Far Right became a fount of proposals born of frustration and put forward in the name of anti-Communism. . . Active-duty commanders played host to anti-Communist seminars on their bases and attended or addressed Right-wing meetings elsewhere."

Although no one in Congress could have known it at the time, Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped over the edge.

According to secret and long-hidden documents obtained for Body of Secrets, the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. In the name of antiCommunism, they proposed launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plan, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.

The idea may actually have originated with President Eisenhower in the last days of his administration. With the Cold War hotter than ever and the recent U-2 scandal fresh in the public's memory, the old general wanted to go out with a win. He wanted desperately to invade Cuba in the weeks leading up to Kennedy's inauguration; indeed, on January 3 he told Lemnitzer and other aides in his Cabinet Room that he would move against Castro before the inauguration if only the Cubans gave him a really good excuse. Then, with time growing short, Eisenhower floated an idea. If Castro failed to provide that excuse, perhaps, he said, the United States "could think of manufacturing something that would be generally acceptable." What he was suggesting was a pretext a bombing, an attack, an act of sabotage carried out secretly against the United States by the United States. Its purpose would be to justify the launching of a war. It was a dangerous suggestion by a desperate president.
(snip/...)

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Printing out all 15 pages actually gives you a whole different "feeling" about them. Having these words on paper held in your own hot little hands, being able to really study them, simply brings them into the 3 dimensional world more dramatically.

From the text, page #5:

#. This plan, incorporating projects selected from the attached suggestions, or from other sources, should be developed to focus all efforts on a specific ultimate objective wich would provide adequate justificatiotn for US military intervention. Such a plan would enable a logical build-up of incidents to be combined with other seemingly unrelated events to camouflage the ultimate objective and create the necessary impression of Cuban rashness and irresponsibility on a large scale, directed at other countries as well as the United States. The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Hemisphere.
(snip)

Page #6. 5. Inasmuch as the untimate objective is overt military intervention, it is recommended that primary responsibility for developing military and para-military aspects of the plan for both overt and covert military operations be assigned the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
(snip/)

The plans that they start revealing on Page #7 are simply horrifying. You really don't get the feeling they understand they are speaking of killing a lot of people simply to set up the excuse needed to invade Cuba. No one could be that evil, you'd think......

Don't forget, this was officially committed to paper and signed on March 13, 1962. It's safe to assume the same department hasn't gone through any significant evolution in the interim, and that they are probably capable of far, far deadlier schemes, and a more fixed will to see them implemented. They've been entertaining such thoughts much longer by now as being acceptible!



This is one of the men involved, Edward Lansdale.

He continued in this kind of work, Operation Mongoose, working in psyops in the Philappines, VietNam, etc., etc. A colossal A-####, and completely contemptuous of the value of human life.

[Ima]

27. really think about this

Quote:
"In the name of antiCommunism, they proposed launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba."

Richard Nixon, was the heir apparent, and was very much involved in this. When he was elected, they were going after Cuba. Ike, IMHO didn't have much involvement in this, or it would have happened during his presidency. They were waiting for Nixon.

[Mika]

4. Does Cuba have oil? - Do you have Google?

Try this,

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Cuba+%2Boil&btnG=Google+Search

[0007]

15. Castro helps with 12,000 doctors

"Since an agreement was fashioned between Cuba's President Fidel Castro and Chavez in 2000 to permit the sale to Cuba of up to 53,000 barrels per day of crude oil and fuel derivatives, Cuba and Venezuela have cultivated a relationship of steady trade. But instead of compensating the Venezuelan government for the oil it has imported with cash, the Cuban government has exported a less commonly traded commodity: human capital in the form of 12,000 doctors, sports instructors, literacy experts and others."

[aneerkoinos]

16. Now more than 13.000 doctors

More here:
http://venezuelaanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1327

Community supported doctors, something US could learn from?

[IndianaGreen]

18. NY Times story dated January 8, 1958 about oil exploration

I will point out that there were recent reports of a major oil find offshore Cuba. This story shows that there was always interest in finding oil in Cuba, and the new interest in toppling Fidel may be connected to the recent oil exploration conducted by European firms in Cuba:

New York Times

January 8, 1958. p. 88.

Oil Exploration Pushed in Cuba As Major Companies Get Rights

Special to The New York Times

HAVANA—The search for petroleum in Cuba, which brought a rush of wildcat oil operators to the scene and created a near boom in 1954 and 1955, has settled down to scientific exploration and test drilling.

There has been no big oil strike here despite the fact that 100,000 of holes has been drilled in the Island since may 1954. The shallow wells drilled in the small fields of Camaguey and Havana Provinces produced only 50 to 200 barrels daily.

According to the Cuba Petroleum News Digest of Havana, production of petroleum in Cuba was 57,163 barrels in 1954, 381,824 barrels in 1955 and 543,121 in 1956. In the first half of 1957 193,160 barrels was produced. Some drilling is still going on in the known fields but the production is declining.

Many of the independent oil companies have turned their leases over to major companies. These companies plan to drill several deep test wells this year.

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/NYT-1-8-58a.htm

[hippiechick]

5. Cuba: More of Poppy's unfinished business.

This time, going back to the Bay of Pigs and other CIA op's in the 60's when Poppy was (or wasn't, he can't seem to remember) elbow deep in the CIA.

Castro must have some dirt on the BFEE.


:hippie:

[aneerkoinos]

9. Simpler than that

Cuban society sets such positive example for the nations of the Earth and especially to other LA countries, that ideology of corporate fascism cannot allow the existance of succesfull ideological rivalry. Decades of illegal economic warfare haven't worked, they survived even the collapse of Soviet block and the following severe energy crisis. Now that Cuba and Chavez' open resistance to US imperialism have been victorious and US has lost its grip on whole South America, nothing else seems to be left than military intervention in Cuba. But I doubt the cowards dare to try that for all their barking. Cuba has more friends in LA than US does, and one of those friends, Chavez, can put US to its knees by oil-embargo.

[Mika]

10. Great points, aneerkoinos

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[TexasChick]

11. Hmmm, very interesting stuff, aneerkoinos. Thanks for the info! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

12. I'm sure you're right about Cuba's having more friends.

Of course, friendship doesn't matter much to a blob who believes he can successfully bribe or bully countries into submission.

Really want to believe what you said. It really seems solid.

[aneerkoinos]

14. I hope (and think) I'm right

Remember, the blob could not even bribe or bully the majority of UNSC on his side against a looser slob like Saddam.

The blob has not been succesfull in torpedoing either Kyoto or ICC.

The blob has lost control of South America, even in Kolumbia, the last stronghold, they are not really in control.

Haiti is now militarily controlled by Lula & co, who are negotiating also with Aristide and most likely serious about delivering honest elections where Lavalas movement, with or without Aristide, is likely to return to power. Even Caricom, club of really small Islands that should be really easy to intimidate, is refusing to legitimise the US puppet in Haiti.

The blob can't stop Shia clerics getting pover in Iraq and their crown jewel soon getting really friendly with Iran, which the blob can't really threaten or even bring to SC to be sanctioned.

The blob can't do anything about China or NK.

The blob can huff and puff all he want's, but cannot do anymore much immediate damage abroad. What the blob can certainly do is make US bubble economy go pop, taking down much of the capitalist world order with it.

So it looks like we are winning, but it also looks like the masses of USA are going to pay the heaviest price, unless they soon start to help themselves and get organized for revolution...

[0007]

17. ....and that 16% that Venezuela contributes would definitely hurt the U.S.

if it were cut off.

[ragin_acadian]

13. take a look at the following document online

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

it's a pdf file, and takes awhile to load, but its worth a look.

I expect that by summer 2005, the news will be awash with "Cuba kidnaps American college students" and "Cuban submarine torpedo's Boggy Bayou Mullet Festival" etc.

I am almost positive that in six months, the TV will tell us that we hafta' go smoke 'em out.

Let's see if we can get ahead of the government, and prepare the sheeple for stories about Castro throwing babies out of incubators, and cigars infected with Anthrax.

[Ima]

20. Before Castro

Cuba was a real third world country. People living in poverty, no education and medical help.


The foreigners who owned everything paid slave wages, poor working
conditions.


Lots of gambling, prostitution, lavish clubs run by hoods. The richer people lived like Kings.


Castro nationalized all the industry. At a later date, he actually paid market value for them, to all that would accept it. Naturally the US company's wouldn't take the money.

Organized crime was driven out of Cuba, and there was a lot of it. They still want their 'Cuba Toy' back.

Castro gave everyone work and food. He was their hero. He had hundreds of men armed with shovels building roads, right after the revolution.

The big Corps want back in there, so they can exploit the natural resources and the people.

[Mika]

21. What Castro Found

Before Castro

75% of rural dwellings were huts made from palm trees.

More than 50% had no toilets of any kind.

85% had no inside running water.

91% had no electricity.

There was only 1 doctor per 2,000 people in rural areas.

More than one-third of the rural population had intestinal parasites.

Only 4% of Cuban peasants ate meat regularly; only 1% ate fish, less than 2% eggs, 3% bread, 11% milk; none ate green vegetables.

The average annual income among peasants was $91 (1956), less than 1/3 of the national income per person.

45% of the rural population was illiterate; 44% had never attended a school.

25% of the labor force was chronically unemployed.

1 million people were illiterate ( in a population of about 5.5 million).

27% of urban children, not to speak of 61% of rural children, were not attending school.

Racial discrimination was widespread.

The public school system had deteriorated badly.

Corruption was endemic; anyone could be bought, from a Supreme Court judge to a cop.

Police brutality and torture were common.

[Ima]

22. nice link

[Judi Lynn]

25. It's true. That's a terrific link. Things are very diffferent now.

_Bush and the radical rightwing Miami "exiles" would like to put everything right back where they were, and reverse the hard work of the population over these 44+ long, hard years.

From time to time you'll run across a rightwing poster who will try to claim that Cuba was one of the wealthiest countries in the vacinity. They claim the median income was high. They don't admit the average income derived from a small number of Spanish descendants and a few others lived far, far, far, far above the standard of living of the peasants, who were desperately poor, having only seasonal work in the sugar cane fields, etc. and absolutely nothing else to sustain them the rest of the time.

Island cultures and most colonies only existed to serve the pleasures of the wealthy somewhere else, as in tobacco, sugar, fruit. The need to create actual agricultural areas to produce food for the indiginous population was never desirable to the landowners, so they were simply screwed.

Now _Bush wants to take it all apart and put them back in the 1950's. I think it take a vicious hatred of human beings to even consider it.



Man eager to see the revolutionaries returning to Havana.
El Quijote de la Lámpara.

[VegasWolf]

24. awol thinks the world will just stand by while he gobbles up countries.

What a lunatic.

[Mika]

26. Americans will stand by while W* gobbles up countries

Lunatics.

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