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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:02 PM
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AAR: Kerry Requests Recount in Ohio
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 07:04 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
More to come, as soon as links hit the web.

Just now on the webstream.

On edit: title adjusted.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:03 PM
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1. How about 'Where?"
Ohio?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:04 PM
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3. Yep.
n/t
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:04 PM
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2. Woo hoo!
They must be actually seeing how much worse things have gotten in the last month!

david
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:18 PM
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10. I have to wonder if they really do have something. Kerry has
remained low-key about this, but if he is indeed asking for a recount they must know something. Oh, please dear God, let them have a smoking gun. I promise to be a very good girl.
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Joylaughter Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:04 PM
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4. Hope returns?
Please tell me this is for real.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:05 PM
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5. Real?
Well AAR News JUST reported it.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:08 PM
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6. Heard it, too! n/t
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:10 PM
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7. Turned it on and missed it!
Hope they repeat it and I hope it's true!
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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:13 PM
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8. REQUESTS recount?
There are already recounts, why would he do that?
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PinkPantherChick Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:20 PM
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11. Kerry recount
WHO CARES WHY???

I will take action to get rid of that mealy mouth Bush anyway that we can get it done. God bless you John Kerry. I have a 5' X 8" upside down flag on the front of my house and would love to get JK in the WH and turn my flag upright.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:24 PM
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15. Because a Kerry request...
Holds far greater weight. Now, things have become serious.

If I were Blackwell, I would be sending out for Depends.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:33 PM
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25. To expedite things...in time for Innauguration?
n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:38 PM
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41. This would be the first official request for a recount
Ohio just now finished their ORIGINAL count. That's what was certified the other day.

If Kerry is asking for a recount, he must know something. Big.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:16 PM
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9. Like....get out!!!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:22 PM
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12. We need a link soon
Thank you
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:25 PM
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16. Nancy:
It must have just come across the wire. It is not yet up on Reuters, as far as I can find.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:23 PM
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13. Well, that makes no sense. Greens already requested recount.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:28 PM
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19. Sure it does!
Damn. Think it out: Who has the greater interest in this thing, legally? Kerry or Cobb?

If this hits court, Kerry is gonna get a lot farther. That is how court stuff works. Think: Scales of Justice.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:32 PM
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22. Well, I am not going to believe it, until I see it in writing.
Because it's kind of late in the game for Kerry to request a recount.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:13 PM
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36. I don't think it's too late in the game. n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:24 PM
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14. Did John Kerry himself, using his voice, request it? Or are papers filed?
Please keep us advised.

Was it RR, who gave the news?

:thumbsup:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:25 PM
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17. It was...
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 07:26 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
The AAR news person.

On edit: Bill Crowley, I think, at the top of the hour.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:12 PM
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35. Thanks, Tandalayo
I have to pop in and out of DU while working, so it's nice to hear some good news, even if it does kind of make me sit on the edge of my chair for the next hour or two, hoping for even more good news.

*fingers crossed, praying fervently*
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:33 PM
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24. A while back, Kerry's lawyer was supposedly helping Greens
to expedite a recount. Maybe whoever reported it was confused.
It's Greens who requested a recount, not Kerry.
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:26 PM
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18. Is this what AAR is reporting?
If so, it's not really anything new...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4659292,00.html

With support from John Kerry's campaign, two third-party candidates for president officially asked on Tuesday for a recount in Ohio, the state that put President Bush over the top in November.


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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:29 PM
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21. Yes, but...
Now Kerry is in the fray. Offishul-like. Think it out.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:28 PM
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20. Finally Kerry comes out Finally!!! Where has he been!!!
A bit too late to cover his butt!!!
His colors are showing!!!

Thank God Edwards is Vice President!!!

Wimps have no place in history!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:39 PM
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27. you are right--not new--but what is new is the letters were sent today:-



http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4659292,00.html

Two Candidates Request Recount in Ohio

Tuesday December 7, 2004 10:31 PM


AP Photo CADP105

By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS

Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -.....

The requests, mailed to all 88 counties, were expected to arrive by Wednesday.

Generally, county election boards must agree to a recount, as long as the parties bringing the challenge pay for it. And the Green and Libertarian parties collected enough donations to cover the required $113,600, or $10 per precinct. ....


``There is a possibility that George W. Bush did not win Ohio. If that is the case, it would be a crime against democracy for George Bush to be sworn into office,'' he said. ....


The request came a day after Ohio officially certified Bush as the winner of this battleground state by 118,775 votes. The president's unofficial election-night margin of 136,000 votes shrank slightly after provisional and absentee ballots were counted and errors corrected. ......

The Kerry campaign has said it supports the recount - not because it believes the outcome will change, but because it wants to see a full and accurate accounting. ......

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:07 PM
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30. Well, that's not Kerry requesting recount. That's Greens.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:01 PM
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43. Well, that's old news. Greens collected money for a recount and
now filed papers, as they said they would.
Kerry is not requesting a recount.
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Farmgirl Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:33 PM
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23. Could it have to do with this??

Dear XXXXX,

Your response to Washington Governor candidate Christine Gregoire's plea for help has been overwhelming. Thanks to your generosity, the recount in Washington will now go forward. With only 42 votes separating Gregoire and her Republican opponent, today we can ensure that every ballot is accurately counted. This could not have happened without you.

Your incredible grassroots support is vital to our continued fight to ensure a full and legitimate count of every single vote in this election and future elections. In addition to our strong commitment to the recount in Washington State, the Democratic Party has empowered the Ohio Democratic Party to represent us as our official observer during the recount. We will make sure that every vote in Ohio is counted.

But we aren't stopping there. After consulting with our Voting Rights Institute staff, Voting Protection Coordinators, Ohio legal team, Party activists, supporters, elected officials, and others, and after reviewing available information, the Democratic National Committee has decided to conduct a thorough investigation of key election issues arising from the conduct of the 2004 general election in Ohio.

This investigative study will address the legitimate questions and concerns that have been raised in Ohio and will develop factual information that will be critically important in crafting further key election reforms. This project seeks to answer such questions as:

Why did so many people have to wait in line in certain Ohio precincts and not others?
Why weren't there enough machines in some counties and not others?
Why were so many Ohioans forced to cast provisional ballots?
We will find answers to help implement and advocate reforms in the future.

Let me be clear. We do not expect either the recount in Ohio or our investigation to overturn the results of this election. But both are vital to protecting every American's voting rights in future elections. And the Democratic Party will never waver when it comes to upholding this sacred trust.

Thank you again for your incredible support.

Sincerely,

Terry McAuliffe
Chairman

Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee, www.democrats.org. This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

DNC, 430 S. Capitol St. SE, Washington DC 20003



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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:34 PM
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26. Tandalayo_Scheisskopf, I knew I had a big crush on this man for a
reason! Thanks for letting us know. When you get a link or some more information, please share it with us! I cry every night because this damn election was stolen from this man, who I think would make a great president! It just isn't right! This country needs this man, not smirking Chimp! Thanks again!

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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:51 PM
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28. Umm, "What Nader, Cobb, and Badnarik said...I feel that way too" N/T
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:58 PM
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29. LINK, please.
thanks!
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:07 PM
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31. whaaaaa???
why now???
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:35 PM
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40. UCLA Dem, don't quote me on this, but I think he had to wait until
Katherine Blackwell certified the votes. I think Katherine certified them yesterday or Friday, I believe? He couldn't file a recount until the votes were certified.
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SteveIrving1 Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:10 PM
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32. Thank God, I was a little worried.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 08:14 PM by SteveIrving1
I was worried that Kerry wouldn't investigate into the massive TREASEN that more thien likely happend.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:10 PM
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33. A whole bunch of articles show up on Google News search
in the last hour, and they all say that the recount was filed with "support" from the Kerry camp.They are all from AP. But that's all. No details of what that means in practical terms...

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/politics/index.ssf?/base/politics-7/1102464549297420.xml&storylist=electionmi

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4659513,00.html
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:12 PM
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34. HOLY SHIZZNITCH!
nice to have good news once in a while...not holding breath tho....
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:15 PM
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37. AP Link: (Is this it?)
Candidates Officially Request Ohio Recount

1 hour, 7 minutes ago

By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio - With support from John Kerry (news - web sites)'s campaign, two third-party candidates for president officially asked on Tuesday for a recount in Ohio, the state that put President Bush (news - web sites) over the top in November.

The requests, mailed to all 88 counties, were expected to arrive by Wednesday.

...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20041208/ap_on_el_pr/ohio_vote
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:28 PM
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39. Please vote, needs help!!
1.98 w/129 votes...
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confusa Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:39 PM
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42. Voted!
Gave it a 5. Might need to be posted elsewhere so others can get in on the fray.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:16 PM
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38. It's getting some more play on AAR right now...n/t
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:04 PM
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44. Finally. n/t
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:07 PM
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45. Locking
Because the headline is different from the actual linked story and we are now getting duplicates, please go to this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1053010

Thank you
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