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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:03 PM
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Former Marine tells of "psychopaths"---(in his outfit)
In Vietnam they used to call them "hunters".
But I think psychopath is more professional.


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Former Marine tells of "psychopaths"
TORONTO — A former U.S. Marine in Iraq, testifying yesterday at a hearing for an American military deserter seeking asylum in Canada, said several men in his unit were "psychopaths" who enjoyed killing unarmed Iraqi civilians who posed no threat.

Jimmy Massey, a staff sergeant who was in the Marines for 12 years and served three months in Iraq before being honorably discharged with post-traumatic stress syndrome, made the allegations before Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board on the final day of an asylum hearing for Army Pfc. Jeremy Hinzman, 26.

Hinzman fled Fort Bragg, N.C., to Canada weeks before his 82nd Airborne Division was to be deployed to Iraq. He had served three years in the Army but applied for conscientious-objector status before his unit was sent to Afghanistan in 2002.


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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:11 PM
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1. WOW - Citizens are having to get asylum away FROM the US Govt.
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 05:13 PM by TwentyFive
Scary. Very Scary. (shiver!)
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:18 PM
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2. My father has told me the same exact thing.
It would be nice to think that every soldier has rosy cheeks and an attitude to match. unfortunately there are nuts in the Army that scare even the most seasoned soldier.
When I was in the Paratroopers there were several people that I would want no part what-so-ever to accompany me to war.... These Fuckers belonged in a mental hospital ....
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:26 PM
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3. Hey, isn't this what Kerry was attacked for when he said this happened
in Vietnam?

Next week it won't have happened in Iraq either.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:27 PM
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4. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS
that means no questions - period. everything they do is above reproach.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:59 PM
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5. Like Universals Soliders
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:36 PM
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6. ::::looking at watch::::::: Is it 1969? What country is this?
Flashback time, folks. To another war in another time.

Why is anyone surprised at this sort of testimony? It happens in all wars. It happens more when the leadership is fer shit.

The leadership in 1969 was fer shit. The leadership today is fer shit.

As in a post above about rosy cheeked kids ....... yeah, most of the military's rank and file are honest people doing what they see as honest, necessary work. But there will always be sociopaths in any group. Make it a group where killing is the implicit objective and you attract more than your fair share. The police are similar. Most cops are good cops. But there are always those few.

Can anyone say "psychological testing".
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:56 PM
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8. But You Don't Understand!
Psychological testing is scientific and you CANNOT have that in the Shrub Faith-Based Society!!! No! :P
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3days Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:42 PM
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7. I believe that was what they call a free fire zone
Same exact thing Kerry had to deal with.

Hell, I saw how some of my friends in the military acted at a bachelor party and I can't imagine what it would have been like in a battlezone.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 07:20 PM
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9. Duplicate
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