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sled Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:57 AM
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OHIO: Election glitches spur many to call for investigations
Election glitches spur many to call for investigations

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1102854608208960.xml

Sunday, December 12, 2004

Rachel Konrad
Associated Press

As the Electoral College prepares to certify President Bush's re-
election on Monday, concerns persist about the integrity of the
nation's voting system - particularly in Ohio, where details continue
to emerge of technology failures, voter confusion and overcrowded
polling stations in minority and poor neighborhoods.

Few mainstream politicians dispute Bush's victory, and the incumbent's
3.5 million-vote margin nationwide was wider than any of the reported
problems, which included insufficient or incomplete provisional
ballots and, in some places, brazen partisan shenanigans.

But that is not stopping a disparate assortment of personalities -
prominent among them Democratic U.S. Rep. John Conyers Jr. of
Michigan, activist Jesse Jackson and presidential candidates of the
Green and Libertarian parties - from questioning the accuracy of
certified results and demanding investigations.

Of greatest concern is the extent of disenfranchisement in Ohio, whose
20 electoral votes guaranteed Bush's victory.

(SNIP)

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:59 AM
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1. Kerry should really unconcede
and call for people to protest.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:27 AM
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3. indeed...
but I am not holding my breath. I believe we were treated to a 'raw deal' instead of a 'real deal'.
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:48 AM
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4. not til after new years
and not after jan 6. if it doesnt happen by then it wont ever.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 10:54 AM
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5. I think that
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 10:55 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
would be a last resort he would surely have envisaged.

Look at it this way. It's difficult for the neocons to demonise the keystone of any and every election, *counting the vote*, particularly when it is also the foundation stone of democracy, itself.

Stripped of almost all the power of negative propaganda, the option to personalize the issue, which has been the sole modus operandi of the neocons since their record in office has proved to be a nightmare of such gothic proportions, (surpassed in its horror only by the prospect of more of the same with bells on), that many Republicans, not least among the highest in the land, have switched their allegiance to Kerry. And Rove is having his own fundament kicked from here to breakfast; left exposed ("like a shag on a rock", in Aussie parlance) to public ridicule, once it's all over bar the shouting and the smoke has cleared - finessed by a man whose boots he's not fit to lick.

The immense juggernaut of evidence of electoral fraud and voter suppression, physical and circumstantial (the latter by no means less awesome) speaks far more eloquently than John could in the teeth of their propaganda machine, even with the oratorical skills of Wild Bill, himself.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:16 AM
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6. I hope you are right. n/t
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 08:11 AM
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2. Make sure the Conyers forum in Ohio is televised
No copying and pasting on this one. Just click the button to launch your email program, and then click send. Done!

http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity_tell_cspan.htm

"Tell C-Span Cover the Election Voting Procedures Forum in Ohio on Monday"

Subject: Please Cover the Monday Election Voting Procedures Forum in Ohio


I would like to request that you air the Conyer's Hearings scheduled to take place on Monday in Columbus, OH. As a citizen, I am very concerned with the events surrounding the 2004 election and these hearings point to very serious charges of election fraud. We The People, want to see the evidence so I humbly request that you reconsider. There are millions of viewers that are more than a little interested in these historical hearings. Please do the right thing.

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Tell C-Span Cover the Election Voting Procedures Forum in Ohio on Monday

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Please go to the url at the end of this message to send the following message to C-Span: I would like to request that you air the Conyer's Hearings scheduled to take place on Monday in Columbus, OH. As a citizen, I am very concerned with the events surrounding the 2004 election and these hearings point to very serious charges of election fraud. We The People, want to see the evidence so I humbly request that you reconsider. There are millions of viewers that are more than a little interested in these historical hearings. Please do the right thing. http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity_tell_cspan.htm

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:45 AM
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8. This is excellent! It should be it's own thread!
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:33 AM
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7. Another misleading headline on an election FRAUD story
Suppression of the Democratic vote, especially in majority black precincts, wasn't a "glitch." Neither were any of "Uncle Ken" Blackwell's directives simply glitches. The nearly 4,000 bogus votes for Bush in Gahanna 1-B weren't glitches either. Nor were the Repub goons sent in to minority precincts glitches.

All of that crap and more was rigging and/or fraud! All of these operations were done to pump up Bush's margin.

Where are the "glitches," "errors" or "mistakes" that benefitted Kerry in 2004 or Gore in 2000?

Answer: NONE have yet been found!
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:01 PM
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9. Registration-free URL to the same AP story, at Newsday
http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-unsettled-election,0,708754.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

"The nation's voting system, despite improvements since the 2000 Florida fiasco, remains a locally administered patchwork whose lack of national uniformity distinguishes the United States from many other democracies. Although most complaints have come from Democrats and the third-party candidates, Republicans and bipartisan groups acknowledge problems....

Rev. Jackson and other activists want wholesale changes in the U.S. voting process, ideally before the 2006 midterm elections. Jackson says the most distressing problem appears to be the lack of nationwide standards. No federal agency enforces regulations when states or counties fail to comply with internal procedures. Without national standards, he said, some poor counties have inferior equipment and insufficient numbers of voting machines to support dense populations.

"What we really need is a federal standard for elections, and we need a constitutional, individual, federally protected right to vote," said Jackson, president of the Chicago-based Rainbow/PUSH Coalition."
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